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lestatdark said:
The Fury said:
kirby007 said:

fun fact kang wouldn't have gone back in time without dr. doom, without kang going back in time there wouldn't have been the supercharged apocalypse

thus apocalypse and essex are a result of dr. doom

Doom has his hand in alot but En Sabah Nur already existed, just without Kang's influence he would have not risen up and became stronger. Although would it mean he wouldn't have found the Celestial's Ship later on?...

Dr. Doom? Didn't Kang go back in time after finding one of his ancestor's time machines and fighting an alternate reality Fantastic Four? This was before his encounters with Dr. Doom if i'm not mistaken, when he proclaimed himself as pharaoh Rama-Tut.

@The Fury - I agree with you regarding X-Force. It's one of my least favourite arcs, especially in Messiah War and Necrosha. Damn, I don't remember reading the comics where they made Apocalypse the suit :-|. Why the hell would someone do that?

^^ see bolded

EDIT: fucking love how this thread evolved!!



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