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megaman79 said:
Soundwave said:
artur-fernand said:
The Wii U's concept is extremely flawed. It's basically Nintendo's version of the PS360 - six years after the PS360 were released. Oh, I'm sorry - it has the Gamepad. Yeah, total game-changer.

Consumers spent 6-7 years waiting for the next generation. When Nintendo finally enters it, it's... pretty much the same thing people had for the last 6-7 years. What, do you think the Wii U isn't considered an 8th gen competitor to the PS4/One because of a grudge with Nintendo? Please.

It's like I said before, the system's fate is sealed. Even the cross-gen games have a hard time going to the Wii U, and they are coming to an end. Once we go full next-gen, it's over. Arkham Knight, Assassin's Creed Unity, EA Sports UFC, FFXV, KH3... you get the idea.


It was a large mistake. 

Honestly MS I think made a mistake too not investing more into their chip. The shadow of the PS3/360 looms large over this generation, you have to give consumers a large upgrade to get them off the fence. 

When the Wii U was conceptualized in 2009/2010, Nintendo probably not think that the iOS marketplace (remember iPad wasn't even released until spring 2010) would damage their standing with casual gamers so much either. 

Are you blind or did you not notice Nintendo sell the 3DS as a core gamer device for the first few years or so? Not to mention theres been no Touch Generations releases. Btw, understanding when the Wii U was conceived originally has nothing to do with the 5 years gap when designs are re-engineered constantly.

In addition, it is clealy evident that Nintendo KNEW exactly what the iOS market was doing, and that's why they launched the Wii U with a minigame compilation (with rather admittedly, some very boring motion/swipe controlled games with Nintendo branding on them). As much as the home console market commands byline coverage in western game media, i think ignoring Nintendo and its relationships with indys (both on the 3DS and Wii U),  in this generation & next will be detrimental to the old dogs (EA, Ubisoft) of gaming.

3DS launched with Nintendogs + cats as the lead software title from Nintendo, lol. They may not have the "Touch Generations" label, but Brain Training, Art Academy, Style Savvy, and Animal Crossing are all available on the 3DS. 

The audience just isn't. 

Indies are nice, but those devs have no loyalty (and can't afford to be choosy quite frankly), no one cares that Wii U has indie games if they're the same game that's on 10 other platforms. That's the problem with indie games. That and often those same games are available for cheaper on the iPad/Google Play store, etc.