Prediction: Christmas 2014 will determine if WiiU will perm be in 3rd place by the end of the gen.

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PigPen said:

Davman said:

Wii U has 2 serious problems : a) The majority of their games are action/platform

                                                        b) the price is still too high for a console that has four times lower performance than PS4

I bought a Wii U last week, but only for the reason i bought it used for 200 euros. (Waiting for Bayonetta 2 & X )

That's where you are wrong.  If the PS4 is four times the Wii U, it should be doing 1080p & 60 fps in all games.  At least you brought a Wii U.  For not one reason, I'm never buying a Playstation 4.

Not everything has to do 1080p & 60fps when they are pushing other areas.

Wii U games that are 1080p, 60fps are very low tech.  Mario Kart 8 is 720p, no anti-aliasing, with effects reminiscent of what the 6th gen Xbox could do.

PigPen said:

The Wii U has eDRAM and the PS4 has GDDR5.

GDDR5 = 176GB a second

eDRAM = 1TB or 1000GB a second

The Wii U just might outshine the other consoles. I know you don't know what I'm talking, but you can look it up.

I know you don't know what you're talking about.  Wii U doesn't have the fill rate to make use of 1000GB/second, or even close to it.

How much bandwidth do you think it takes to render MK8's screen?  720p * 60fps * 8BPP * no Anti-aliasing,  1280 * 720 * 60 * 8 = 421MB/s per-pass, 0.41GB/second per pass.  It doesn't take much bandwidth to draw MK8, and MK8 must have been fillrate bound otherwise they would do 1080p or turn on some MSAA at least.