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lucidium said:
cpg716 said:

When you are watching TV ...  how do you know your friends logged on their PS4? You don't.. your console is shut off and even if it was ON, you can't tell anything going on it, because you have to swtich HDMI ports.

To be fair, you can be logged in to your ps4 dashboard and it wont tell you if/when your friends log in or out.
However, if i wanted to know such info while watching tv, i would just look at the app on my phone.
Additionally, my TV and many other peoples tv's can, if we really wanted that info, do picture in picture, or side by side video.

cpg716 said:

Buy the X1 being INPUT 1 it will open a HOST of possibilities that the PS4 can NEVER have. This involves gaming and entertainment. This will ALWAYS allow for a greater intergration of GAMING and ENTERTAINMENT.  I think the realaztion of this technologically has ONLY just begun. 

$500 for more power consumption to watch tv when the only tangible bonus is overlay of notifications is an expensive feature, you can say "but it has a tv guide too", yeah.. and so does just about every tv, sat box, cable box, freeview box and freesat box the world over..

cpg716 said:

I think this is what you will see..     No different then what Fan TV, and possible the next Apple TV are also striving for.

I do think this will limit the X1 internationally, but could ultimately give them greater sales in North America and the UK. 

Until the xbox one has cable inputs (psst, it doesnt) then a cable box will always be needed, dont confuse hdmi passthrough for an actual signal tuner.

The X1 doesn't need a cable input because they are making deals with cable company to have their Apps.  The reason these same Apps are not on the Sony consoles is because Sony is in competition with the cable companies.  Today the 360 has Time Warner, Xfinity, Comcast, Version.  For people who use those services, they can cut the cable box completely.