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Mummelmann on 03 May 2014
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Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:


What, besides MK, can pose as true system selling software until Smash? Delayed Watchdogs? Bayonetta 2? X? Will these games truly move systems? I'm not making anything up, can you name which other big titles will help keep the momentum until Smash arrives? The PS4 and One are also in for a meager summer, it's generally a slow time of year.

It is certainly Nintendo's biggest IP, no doubt, and it sold insane amounts on the Wii. This does not equate to monstrous hardware boosts and certainly not in the 200-300k release week ballpark and 1 million, heck even 500k for one month as a boost simply due to MK is incredibly unrealistic. Feel free to tell me how that is false though, same goes for the above.

E3 for momentum? E3 is where Nintendo are usually the most invisible of them all and with so many other conventions having grown and E3 cutting down on non-gaming press visitors in later year; E3 has lost a lot of significance. The fact that Nintendo have purposefully steered away from E3 for some time won't do them any favors either. Since when did E3 announcements result in hardware boosts? That doesn't really happen for any console at any rate, boosts come when software releases, not when the developer tells that it will release in the future.

1.make up your mind. is it about huge system sellers or keeping momentum? nintendo has games for that

2.you are free to believe that.

3. most invisible? no, it always gets as much showcase or more than the others. and it's about the E3 announcements for momentum.


1: So you're making this into a semantics argument rather than pointing out why I'm mistaken. Which titles will provide and maintain momentum to keep the Wii U afloat until Smash? Why will Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, X and other, similar games make more of a difference than Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Lego City Undercover and other games did last year? You must have some form of reasoning behind your beliefs and I would like you to prove me wrong.

2: Yes, I am. Again, how are you providing any reasoning as to why I might be wrong? Seeing as how you still believe the Wii U will manage over 50 million sales lifetime, I can only imagine you're picturing a sales explosion, it would need insane increases to pull that off at this point, which also ties into number 1; what software and other measures will cause this surge besides MK and Smash? Yes, Zelda U will do well but hardly be a deciding catalyst for 50 million sales.

3: E3 has lost a lot of its zest, GDC and other events are equally big, if not bigger, now than E3 is. And once more; announcements do not cause increased sales, the actual launch and release of the announced items does. Sometimes, it can even have the adverse effect and we often see new hardware announcements, be it revisions or completely new hardware, actually lead to a slump in sales. Stating that something will arrive on your console in the future will not make consumers run out and buy them. After all; doesn't the public know that MK and Smash are releasing? They even know the date for MK, why aren't the Wii U sales increasing due to these announcements? Surely, the last MK 8 blowout must have caused a decent bump in sales?

Why do you always answer questions with questions of your own and never apply any actual arguments? It's a pretty worthless debate technique and adds nothing to discussions. You have to reason around your beliefs and points, especially when you always make such fantastic claims; the bigger the claim, the heavier the burden of reasoning. Of course; I'm expecting another a neither here-nor there answer with question marks, deflecting and dodging so this is likely just a big waste of time.