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lucidium said:
Machiavellian said:
lucidium said:
VitroBahllee said:
Squeezol said:
VitroBahllee said:
Everybody who thinks the Xbox One makes no sense is clearly determined not to understand.

My WIFE is fine with turning on the tv through a video game console. Even -I- did not see that coming. Some people who like video games DO care about TV, netflix, ted talks, etc.

Yes, but 'some' is not really enough.


Hahahaha! You think that people who crouch on internet forums declaiming not to like anything other than video games are more numerous than well-rounded people who like video games AND watching television/netflix? Are you serious?!?! HAHAHAHAHA

take ps3/x360 install base and compare number of netflix subscribers to non subscribers and you have your answer (psst,  a larger portion use consoles fir games only)  and why is this exactly? 

 

here i'll tell you. 

cable boxes are better,  tivos and similar can actually record shows, the people that want tv AND games simply turn off thier console and,  as luck woukd have it,  the tv features there were there all along,  still are there. 

Not sure why you are using Netflix as your measurement.  I am sure if you used all of the media apps and othe features of the PS3 and 360 it would show that people on those consoles use a lot of those features and may even clock in more time doing things other than gaming.  With my family its probably more media than games as far as hours go but thats because the whole family use the media feautures and only a few play games.

use them occasionally "because theyre there" yes, but more so than people buying the consoles exclusively for games?

the free to use services are no indication so we can only go off of subscription required services, in which case its compatible to subscription required services that dont need a games console, hell some tv's can do most of them out of the box.

I believe the past people purchase console just for games but the market has become much bigger.  If you think about how many consoles sold between the 360, PS3 and Wii.  This generation people expect the 360 and PS4 to have the same abilities as the PS3 and 360.  People expect this gen to be entertainment systems not just a game console.  As someone mention, Sony nor MS talk about their console as game console but entertainment devices.

We cannot go just by paid subs because by nature the consumer must have paid for the service weather or not they purchase a console.  Instead a true measurement of how people use their console is to measure how much time they actually play games or do other things like using media apps.  If people spend even 40% of their time doing something other than gaming on their game console then those other things become important enough to decide a purchase.