| rukusa said: Excuse me? Are you calling well reviewed games like Zack & Wiki, Winning Eleven Wii & No More Heroes mediocre efforts? Now youre making up excuses to cover up the Wii's own problems. I love those games, and I have to admit as a nintendo fan Im very disappointed the way they are performing in Japan especially since they were known to have taste for creative design. Those games deserved to become top sellers in the japanese region alone. Not all 3rd party support for the Wii has been mediocre. So you best not use that as you defining arguement for the situation of the Wii in Japan. There is doubt in my mind that Monster Hunter III and Fatal Frame will be fantastic, but it remains questionable on how they will perform in Japan. I think the "wii owners are younger/(very) young" arguement is incorrect. Indicators show that the Wii is more a family console which applies to both younger and elder crowds. Guitar Hero for example IS performing well... outside of Japan (its yet to be release in Japan). 3rd games are generally performing decent outside of Japan. But IN Japan? please, spare me bullshit. I see software like Wiifit, Wiiplay topping the charts and I cant see how you can pull out that card saying 3rd party PS3 soft fails. Indicators are showing that the Wii userbase is more willing to buy Nintendo published developed games than 3rd party games which is really saddening. Wii only owners are telling themselves that PS3 software sales arent good enough to overshadow their own situation. I cant deny the hardware sales steep. But software-wise it does show that the sales & consumers are there. Hopefully it will change for the Wii. |
First of all, please remain civil in a discussion. Its not that I offended you, I just stated my opinion. Words like "Bullshit" or "making up excuses" doesn´t make you look very good in discussions.
My point is valid, though. I do talk about the situation in general not specific games that sold under expectations. You took two examples to prove your point, No more Heroes and Zack and Wiki.
Well, No more Heroes is a niche game not targeted at the Japanese audience. Aditionally you have to keep in mind that Suda 51 gamnes never sold well. In fact, No more Heroes outsold all Suda 51 games that have ever been released in Japan. A niche title is not a good indicator of a situation. The same goes for Zack and Wiki - it is a great title but it is very niche and it didn´t get any advertisement at all, just like No more Heroes. Both games were literally destined to sell bad in Japan, no matter which console they would´ve been on. Just look at the overall situation and you´ll see that I have a valid point here. Quite funnily, if the first day sales John_Doe posted are to be believed, Deca Sports, a game that really matches the Wii´s casual audience sold 30k units in its first 24 hours on the market which also proves what I said.
By the way I am really getting annoyed by all the people who call the others fanboys or think they are looking for excuses for something. I am here to predict sales and not to find excuses for anything. Its just the way it is, 3rd Party efforts of Japan-centric games so far have been very mediocre on the Wii. Show me some high profile 3rd party titles that were destined to sell well in Japan but didn´t and I´ll agree you have a point here.
Edit: You also metioned Winning Eleven, sorry didn´t see that before. Well, the game was released weeks after all the other versions of the game which automatically means less demand (just look at every single game that was ported form Xbox 360 to PS3, they all sold a lot less on the PS3 as they were not that new anymore). Additionally it had different play mechanics if I remember correctly and wasn´t really that polished as the other versions.
