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crissindahouse on 06 April 2014
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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
crissindahouse said:
Who says that they don't invest in own studios since a while? But as long as the userbase of the new gen is still so small it isn't that expensive to get third party exclusives.

It also makes no sense to have too many own studios since releasing too many games does only kill sales of every single game. I think Microsoft will have a pretty healthy amount of own games this gen. More would be always great for us players but It has to make sense for the company to have thousands of employees working on games and if they release so many games that people have to decide which one they can buy it will simply cost too much to pay so many salaries.

And not every third party exclusivity has to be that expensive. If you buy a game which would also come to other consoles it is but if you give a developer money to make a game for you (like Killer Instinct) it isn't that expensive and makes as much sense as having own studios. Or do you think it would have been so much cheaper for Microsoft to open an own studio to work on Killer Instinct?

And the Titanfall Bundle doesn't have a retail copy, it has a digital code.

Phil Spencer also explained once in a Podcast that it isn't so simple to say that it is so much cheaper to have more own studios as to pay some third party developers from time to time. People really underestimate what it costs to have own employees. It's not only the salaries you have to pay.

Yes, but TitanFall is 59.99 Retail, even disregarding physical copies, MS is still paying EA for the digital copies that the bundles are made with.

Furthermore, TitanFall is Cross Gen, So it wouldn't just be no ps4 it would be no ps3 as well. Thats 95 million consoles right there.

If MS outright bought Respawn, then the problem changes and it becomes significantly cheaper. The loss of the competitors is irrelevant. But since EA is a multiplat developer, it doesn't make financial sense to invest in selling more XB1s.

like I added to my first post

"Your calculation lacks a lot of factors so that I don't even try to argue about that. Not to forget that you simply can't do a calculation like that in 5 minutes or even 5 days."

But just to mention a few things:

1. Titanfall got a lot of free marketing only because it is exlusive on Microsoft platforms. We would have never seen hundreds of Titanfall threads in every forum if it would have been on every platform. This was worth a lot but didn't cost anything.

2. Many people who can't buy it on their PS3 will simply buy it on their 360. Mentioning the Wii doesn't make any sense to me since even Ubisoft wouldn't release Titanfall on Wii but we talk about EA so that it wouldn't come to Wii U even without Microsoft. PS3 and PS4 are the only platforms the game didn't release on because of Microsoft.

3. Not sure what you think how much Microsoft would invest in a game like Titanfall if they would develop it themselves but it will be a lot and having one more studio for a game like that would cost even more as only the development of the game + marketing. They can give all that money to EA. It is probably more as many think so that EA got a lot and Microsoft can still live with the costs.

4. It really makes no sense to talk so much about so many things since we have absolutely no clue about so many data these companies gained the last years or even decades to calculate with real numbers and if some decisions make sense or not.