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fkusumot said:
Grey Acumen said:
I hardly see how that misrepresents my view. As other people have been successful, and if someone has been successful that DOES mean that something is possible, but simply not having been successful does not prove something to be or not be possible. I never stated that nothing is impossible, but in this particular case i am pointing out merely that the state of impossibility has not been proven, whereas possibility has been shown already, i simply didn't raise that issue because the only point I was replying to was the point about the impossibility.

So where exactly does the misrepresentation come in?
Where has it been shown that it is possible to "intentionally choose to be delusional"?
Well, you'd agree that there are cases of scam artists and such being eventually taken in by their own lies, correct? If so, it's not such a stretch to think that if some people intentionally tried to duplicate that phenomenon, some of them would be successful. So you could say that they would have chosen to become delusional, even though the choice and the delusion would not be (and, it seems to me, cannot be) simultaneous.

On the other hand, "become" is not the same as "be", and as I said, I don't think that the choice and the delusion can logically be simultaneously ongoing.

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