Which one will make it to 10m first, Wii U or Xbox One?

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greenmedic88 said:

DevilRising said:

greenmedic88 said:
Going with the XB1.

Granted, the Wii U has some big franchise sequels coming up, but it's been on the market long enough that there really isn't any indicator that the Wii U won't be the Game Cube of the 8th gen. GC had those big franchises as well.

The XB1 really just needs to fill out its game catalog (it's been less than 3 months; be realistic here) which will improve over the first year of release and should see some strong releases in the second year.

And of course a price adjustment is all but given once MS can cut BoM costs on the current unit, whether that's by selling a Kinect-free SKU or a releasing a simplified, redesigned console. When hardware costs start high, there's a more room for adjustment on the way down, with a larger potential market at each lower tier. Look at the PS3.

Those big franchises weren't nearly as big back in the GC era. MK and SB are both much more high profile and mainstream successes now than they were then. Both upcoming Wii U titles are also much more highly anticipated, as a result, than DD and Melee were.

You're relying upon circular reasoning here.

The reason why MK and SB sold more during the Wii cycle is simply because the Wii sold multiple times more consoles than the GC.

The market for MK and SB will shrink over the Wii U cycle; these games will not sell enough consoles to maintain the same number of sales.

Yup. It's the same reason NSMBU is seeing a huge drop off too. Ditto for DKC, Wii Party U, Mario & Sonic, and Wii Fit U. All sold great on the Wii, none of them have had their mass market success translate to the Wii U. Mario 3D World will likely come in a fair bit below Mario Galaxy too.

Also Smash Brothers was plenty "huge" on the GameCube. As a franchise actually it didn't rise from the casual Wii generation nearly as much as Mario Kart (Wii Wheel) and 2D Mario did ... Smash got a much more modest bump from the Wii craze.