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prayformojo on 01 February 2014
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artur-fernand said:
prayformojo said:
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
This means Nintendo needs to pay for it or its not happening. Forget it. I following Rol and only buying Nintendo published games.

And that's precisely the reason why 3rd parties are avoiding the WiiU like the plague. Why would they waste time and money porting a game over if nobody bothers to buy?


That is a bold face lie by them. You want to know the real reason why the Wii-U is struggling so hard to attract these huge third party publishers? It's because they can't release half games for full price and sell the other half via DLC due to Nintendo only throwing 32GB in the system. It's the same reason EA left. They wanted to screw people over with their microtransaction bullshit and cram Orgin down their throats. Nintendo doesn't allow for that sort of thing by choice, or design.

In a way, this is exposing the truth about modern AAA publishers. It's letting us see who's who. There use to be a time when the line of thinking was "come up with great original idea, make great game with as much content as humanly possible to entertain the gamer, profit". Now it's mostly "create product, market product, make as much profit as possible from product, repeat". The game industry has become the movie industry now.

It's basically Nintendo and indie devs that still do it the old way, the RIGHT way. Unfortunately, greed is taking over.

This whole idea of "nowadays retail games are incomplete and you have to buy DLC to have the complete experience" is one of the biggest bullshits the gaming community has thrown around in the last few years. I cannot think of a single game that was ACTUALLY incomplete, that REQUIRED you to buy extra content to get the full game. DLC is an extension of the game, not a part removed from the game and then sold elsewhere. If you don't buy it, you're not missing the core of the game.

In fact, your whole post is a synthesis of the strange notion that most Nintendo's fans have: Nintendo are the good guys, and third-parties are downright evil for not releasing games for the Wii U. Yeah, fuck those evil publishers!

 

And you know of the biggest franchises in gaming? GTA? Yeah, that has a lot of content and barely any DLC. AC also has a lot of content and the games are fun, despite being yearly instalments (which, unlike popular belief, are not synonym with horrible games and the bane of the gaming industry).

I'll give you this though: on-disc DLC is indeed bullshit. The content is already there, but you can't access it? Yeah, no thanks Capcom.


You missed the entire point of my post which is that big publishing is bad for gaming in general. When the thought process started to get to the point where it was no longer "hey, if we make the best game possible, people will buy it", gaming as a whole took a nose dive. Indie devs still think that way. Major publishers don't. They think in hard numbers. It's now about "does this IP allow for DLC revenue" or "this character needs to look more hip so the target demopgrah can relate".

It's gone holywood and it blows. The Wii-U's inability to support alot of this DLC has, in a way, exposed how bad it's gotten.