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Soundwave on 17 January 2014
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superhippy420 said:
forethought14 said:
Soundwave said:

Honestly a lot of Nintendo fans are more out of touch and more in denial about the situation that Iwata is. At least Iwata knows the truth ... there's a problem and people's lifestyles have changed. 

It's not that some Nintendo fans are more out of touch, they will just do anything to defend their favorite company's decisions. I love Nintendo, but their decisions are NOT something I'd want from them. It took him longer to realize this, but at the very least he acknowledges his failure to understand the current market, and can only go on from there. He's not getting fired, but if he wants to avoid potential presidency issues, he had better get the company on track to the future, the right way. I may be taking more hope from this quote than meets the eye, but I don't think Iwata has ever admitted to completely misreading the market before (could be wrong). 

The current market is really not that different then it ever was.    GTA V sold 30 million. Call of Duty Ghosts has sold 17 million.  Pokemon sold 9.5 million.  Wii Sports,Wii Sports Resort,Mario Kart Wii all still sold over 1 million copies last year and have been on the market for years.  Sony couldnt even get LBP Karting, Playstation All Stars, and God of War Asecention to a million just for a little comparison.   Nintendo's problem is 1. they didnt release nearly enough games in the Wii U's launch year and 2. every game they put out except for SM3DW were destined be be small sellers.  The best selling Pikmin ever has the 1st and it only sold 1.6 million.   W101 is basically a Gamecube game released 10 years later (Gamers love it, mainstream couldnt care less).    Wind Waker HD was a remake and most remakes do about 30 - 40 percent of their original release, if it was popular in the 1st place. (Wind Waker did 4.6m X .30 = 1.4 Lifetime max).   Wii Party U should have been Mario Party U,  same style game, MUCH more brand recognition.   Nintendo really doesnt have to change that much at all, they need to start releasing more AAA titles.    I have no doubt in my mind that Donkey Kong / Mario Kart / Smash Bros / True new Zelda / Multiplayer focused Metroid / True new Wii Sports / X / Bayonetta / Hyrule Warriors / and atleast 6 - 8 more great titles can save the console, but if they dont get them all out in the next 15 - 18 months, then the console will never be able to move more then 25 million units lifetime.  They need to make people feel like a Wii U is needed, not just a little upgrade to their Wii.


I just don't think you can sell a Nintendo console anymore unless it has all the third party support people want and proper hardware parity OR a controller gimmick that breaks through and becomes a phenonemon. 

The Wii U is just Nintendo coming off the high of the Wii and returning back to the normal trend they were on where the SNES sold less than the NES, the N64 sold less than the SNES, and the GameCube sold even less than the N64. 

Throwing the same (by now) 20/30 year old Nintendo franchises at the problem over and over again isn't the solution. 

I think Nintendo basically conceeded the market for core gamer consoles a while ago, as PS3/360 basically took 100% ownership of that market with little/no resistance from Nintendo. The Wii was just a party machine with the occassional dash of Mario here and there for most people.