Sqrl said:
bdbdbd said:
Sqrl said:
mrstickball said:
It's amazing that one pro-MS article gets ragged on by Auron and others...I'm getting a little tired of everyone jumping on the "Xbot" train when there aren't any of the sort here....
But I do tend to think that MS is talking actual install base. As said by others, MS can easily figure out their install base.
Users connected on live (as of today) / historical (or most recent confirmed) ratio of XBL users to units sold = instal base.
It's not that hard folks. MS knows exactly how many people, to the tee, of people on XBL. They know how that plays into their actual install base. Is it any wonder they can comment on the install base and *gasp* be right? |
Sure if they factor in what they know about failure rates as well. But they clearly did not factor that in. While many replaced their units there were, especially before they admitted to the problem, many who had to re-purchase their 360s anew and some who just decided not to bother with it anymore at all. If they're saying this is sold to consumers it sounds right to me. But I have a hard time buying that this is even close to the actual installed base. |
Why not? In EU, every single 360 sold has been under warranty since launch. The 3 years extended warranty came along before the 2 years default ended. Every 360 sold, is under the 3 years warranty, so if your launch console gave you the RRoD, in the US for example, you still got it fixed after the 3 years came along (unless you threw it into garbage) and could have been sold in ebay or similar. |
A lot of people replaced them or got rid of the paperweight before the warranty was offered. The days of the RRoD stories before that warranty pretty much always included the person having to buy a new 360 or people being so pissed they were "done with the console" etc... I'm sure some of them kept it but not all of them and some replaced it altogether (sometimes multiple times). Normally anecdotal evidence isn't sufficient I realize but this is the exact same anecdotal evidence that forced them to admit to the problem and inact the warranty in the first place. |
I know a lot of those things happened, and the issue is practically solely in US. But since it's more like guesswork, it's really hard to say how many were really thrown away and how many got replaced before M$ adressed the issue.
Anyway, i don't think the real installbase is so much diffent to sold to customer number, that it would really matter.
