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Soundwave on 17 January 2014
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superhippy420 said:
Soundwave said:
superhippy420 said:
I still don't think the Wii U's problems have anything to do with hardware specs or the tablet controller, but has everything to do with the lack of big 1st party games, and Iwata should be taking the blame for this. 3rd Party games have never sold / carried Nintendo's consoles, and they could have pretty much every 3rd party game out there and it still wouldn't matter. People want Nintendo games for their Nintendo Console. The "Wii" franchise (Sports,Fit,Play), Mario,Zelda,Mario Kart, Smash Bros,Donkey Kong,Animal Crossing. Metroid,Kirby,Starfox,F-Zero,Pikmin and all of their other franchises have always been 1 - 2 million sellers and none have ever moved consoles, but have been solid software sellers for Nintendo when their base is there. For Nintendo in their 1st full year to only release (of their big franchises) 2 rehashes (NSMBU,Wind Waker HD), and 1 semi-sequel(SM3DW) is pathetic. For as much as I love SM3DW, it should have been a brand spanking new Mario game that we have never seen before like SMB,SMW,SM64, Sunshine,and Galaxy. I do think Nintendo will do much better in 2014, but they better bring atleast 4 more games on top of Smash,Kart,DK,Bayonetta,X,and Hyrule Warriors. Also Wonderful 101 was a huge mistake, maybe with a big install base it would have done better, but to try to move consoles with it was a big miscalculation. The 3DS fell below expected sales, but it's still making Nintendo money no doubt. It's biggest problem is it has not found its NSMB/Nintendogs/Brain Age to really pump up sales, but thats what happens when you don't take a few chances with some new IP's.


The whole "we're going to make a console almost one full generation behind the others!" formula just doesn't work without a blockbuster type of controller to go with it. 

That's where that whole house of cards falls apart. 

Your average consumer couldnt care less about hardware specs.  If that was the Case Vita would be outselling the 3DS by 40 million, the Gamecube would have destroyed the PS2, and Sega would still be a console manufacture.    The house of cards fell apart when Nintendo refused to speed up game development.  Pikmin was delayed, Donkey Kong was delayed, Wii Fit U was delayed, Mario Kart has taken too long, and Smash Bros has taken way too long.  I love Sakurai, but to have him balanced Smash Bros by himself in 2014 is retarded.   I know that game is his baby, but let him manage a team, not do the thing by himself.  Iwata should be canned, the guy is running a gaming company with franchises / properties that sell themself and he is finding a way to screw it up.

Specs do matter for consoles. Handhelds are a completely different business. The SNES would've been routed by the Genesis if Nintendo opted to just keep it at NES tech levels for examples. Third parties would've all just made games for the Genesis instead. 

The fact is the Wii U does actually have sequels to many of the top selling Wii games already

Wii Sports, Mario & Sonic, Wii Party, Wii Fit, New Super Mario Bros., and Mario Galaxy are six of the top 11 selling Wii titles, and they all have equivalent sequels/upgrades now available on the Wii U.  

Nintendo fans need to get over this "Smash Brothers will fix everything" excuse that gets used all the time. That didn't save the GameCube and the Wii never really needed Smash Bros. to sell like gangbusters.