Cj2i3 on 03 January 2014
Install base is kind of a mute excuse for me at least.
PS2 has a 160m install base and Wii has a 100m install base doesn't mean the games released on them recently are gonna sell millions, especially since consumers have or are moving on to newer consoles in the PS4 and Wii U.
I think the whole "FLOP" thing is nothing more for opposing fan bases to rag on a game they don't like or don't intend to play.
Both games have probably already hit profitability and to call profitability a failure is a failure in itself.
