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ethomaz said:

Puppyroach said:

What is so horrible with that guess? What we know so far is:

- Sony predicted sales of 3 million by years end (which basically should be shipped=sell-through)

- Sony announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (NA)

- MS announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (13 countries)

- Sony announced selling 2.1 million worldwide since launch

- MS announced selling 2 million worldwide since launch.

They have both been adamant with announcing everything they have. Since we have had no announcements, what we CAN go by is Sonys prediction (sadly MS hasn´t given one) which is 3 million by years end, telling us VGC numbers are a bit too high right now.

Fixed because they never did that.

BTW using the announces and the data from UK, France, Australia, Spain... Xbone didn't reach 2 million... PS4 did reach 2.1 million... funny... the 13 countries for Xbone makes even hard to believe in the 2 million because for that they need to be sold 300k or more in Brasil or any other LA countrie.

Well, he (Jack Tretton) did confirm the estimate from analysts in an interview with Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-11/sony-sees-sales-of-3-million-playstation-4-consoles-by-year-end.html

I go by figures from MS and Sony, you seem so adamant that X1 should be a failure that you even seem to think they would lie in their announcements. Give it up because those are atleast formally announced numbers.

Is your attitude actually this: if MS announce something, they lie but if we don´t hear anything from Sony, they must exceed what even they have confirmed before in an interview with Bloomberg?