Kane1389 said:
Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
Zappykins said:
Kane1389 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Nice. Did not see that coming.
Hopefully this will speed things up in the more resistant states.
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Uh, they havent actually legalized gay marrige in Utah
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True, but yet again, a same sex marriage ban has been found unconstutional. It was like withholding the right to vote from women. Stated with a few states and spread till it was every where.
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The states still have the right to defend traditional marrige and the voters can decide on most of the laws. And honestly, I dont think Mormons favour queer marrige very much
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What? What is 'traditional marriage' where a women is property of the husband? One were a family sells off a daughter? Or one with many wives? or one with man husbands? (those area all Traditions. You agenda is showing when you try to spin denying civil rights a defending somethingh that never was what you are claiming.)
I use the word traditional as ''standard marrige'' in this context between a man and a woman. Traditional in this sense means the christian (not jewsih) marrige - you know, the religion on which the entire western morals and laws are based on.
In the USA Churches will have no say in their ability to keep citizens from their civil rights. It's called the separation of Church and State. It's one of the founding principals of the US Construction. Just like how slavery is 100% supported by the Bible, it is not allowed because it violates state and federal laws.
I never said anything about civil rights, did I? I also never mentioned any churches or any religious institutions at all. You are trying to spin this into anther agonazing gay marrige debate. Do you get a boner by attacking church and religion? I was simply stating that A STATE has a right to defend a traditional marrige and its laws, federal goverment has no say in Utah's laws regarding gay marrige.
I would hope that the Mormons should spend more of the time and the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent trying to destroy same sex families on something good and meaningful. The ironic thing is, with their large families, Mormons they produce more gay kids by percentage than all other families in the USA. (The number of brothers a male child has directly increased the chances of said child being gay.) Makes me wonder why they are attacking their own familes.
You do know that LDS church donated almost 1 billion dollars in over 180 countries around the world, right? How much did your beloved LGBT lobby spend on helping innocent, poor and sick people around the world instead of promoting their agenda?
It seems that two men or two women getting married makes you uncomfortable. May I ask why?
It seems as if you got that impression simply for the sake of arguing? I never stated my stance on gay marrige issue, you just want to use your classic liberal progressive ad hominem and jabs against me because i used the word ''traditional'' in my post.
It seems that the word traditional makes you uncomfortable. May I ask why?
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Ok, So you couldn't answer my quetions.
But I'll will answer yours: Because it is a complete and deceptive lie. It is not suported by Biblical teachings, it's only made up by people against civil rights as some attempt to spin that other people have their families recogized is somehow an attack on them. (I points out lying is a sin.)
As far at the LGBT lobies spending monies, do you think people should not be allowed to defend themselves when disturbed people try to control others and go after eleminating and removing their rights? What should women do if someone wanted to remove their right to vote, work or own property? Just sit there?
The Morman spend million promotion their own agenda, pretty fancy to call it 'charity.' Do you realize how many cultures they have wipped out to incorporate into their own?
They have even converted Ann Frank something like 9 times to try to make her Mormon, thus attempting to erase her Jewish herritage.
Also, you don't seem to understand US law. Federal law, as it was in this case, trumps state law. A state can not make a law that says women do not have the right to vote - but could have a 'domestic recomendation' because Federal laws guarantee the right of women to vote.
