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Mummelmann on 18 December 2013
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Viper1 said:
Mummelmann said:

Well, that's even worse if that's the case. Using the 360 in Japan as a metric to measure success is... strange.

Besides; the PS3 sold about 1.3 million in Japan in the first full calendar year even though it had competition, from the Wii no less, the Wii U is competing with 7-8 year old consoles and only recently started beating them. There's really no way to spin this into a great achievement.

Comparing the Wii U against past consoles is going to make it look bad.  What this thread is alluding to is the past performance of the Wii U itself.  Which is indeed much better.  And the rate of change seen for the holiday bump is quite a lot higher for Wii U than other consoles.   That must have a lot to do with having the right marketing and games right now.

Will it do well with upcoming consoles on the shelves too?  Hard to say but it's certainly doing much better than it was 8 weeks ago which is why there is celebration lately.

I believe it fair that a console can celebrate an acheivement against itself and not just against competition. Do we not celebrate when we succeed after previous failure?


In this case, this might be true, but there are a whole lot of people who are seeing some decent Japanese numbers and thinking that this implies a makestic worldwide comeback.

That actually seems to be the case in perhaps 50% of these threads, with the other half basically being more; "that's all well and good but how about long-term?". It's a bit hard to determine which one this is. Besides, we don't know anything about what the competition can do here yet so we have no 8th gen measure right now.

For the record; I don't think anyone will sell a lot of home consoles in Japan this gen, they're fast becoming the world leader in the mobile market.

The Wii U is doing okay in Japan right now, no one can argue that, one can speculate on what it means and how it looks in the future though, this being a sales site and all. And I also think it's perfectly acceptable to compare it to other consoles, in the 7th gen these threads were bombarded with charts and graphs with aligned launches. It only very recently became unfair or irrelevant to compare the current Nintendo home console to others and that's not only a bit backwards; it's also kind of unfair with the 7th gen in mind.