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Eliseo104 said:
Soundwave said:
Eliseo104 said:

Nintendo's biggest mistake on the Wii U was that the listen to the so called "hardcore fans", i hope they have learned the lesson and never do that again.


Yes, hardcore gamers asked for a last gen chipset, no HDD, low electricity consumption over console horsepower, and a tablet controller?

Look at Nintendo's Wii U software offerings

Bridge/Casual-Core Games: New Super Mario Bros. U, Mario 3D World (2)

Casual Games: Nintendo Land, Game & Wario, Wii Sports Club, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Sing Party, Mario & Sonic Sochi Olympics (7)

Core Games: Ninja Gaiden 3 (port), Zelda: WW (port of a 10 year old game), Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101. (4)

Kids Centric Games: LEGO City Undercover (1)

Half of their game output is mini-game/party game collection and the two Mario games are also clearly aimed at the Wii casual audience with the focus on replicating the simpler Mario games and multiplayer action. 

There's virtually nothing specific for "hardcore" gamers. 

It's total BS to pin this on hardcore gamers especially when the multiplats are no different from the PS3/360 which every core gamer already owns. Nintendo Land, Wii Sports Club, Just Dance, Wii Fit U, Wii Party U, Mario & Sonic Olympics should be bringing in casual consumers. They're the ones not showing up for Nintendo. 

PS4 and XB1 sales show perfectly well that hardcore gamers are happy to upgrade to new consoles and even pay high prices provided the system is actually an upgrade over the PS3/360 in sizable ways. Nintendo is one who decided to follow the "Wii formula" of a underpowered console + controller gimmick + lots of mini-game-athons to sell everything. 

The only difference is this time they controller gimmick did not take off with consumers and they're now screwed. 


I seems I touched one of those "hardcore" sesitive strings. Anyway, next time they should try with a cheap entry and not with the ridiculous price of $350, cheap hardware and quality titles along with a good marketing to start off.


I'm just stating facts. Look at their library. Look at their hardware. It's made for casuals. It's only $50 more than the Wii right now, which with inflation taken into account is about the same price as the Wii was in 2006/2007.

All the Wii U illustrates is that the formula of a controller gimmick + moderately overclocked last gen hardware + heavy emphasis on mini-game collections is a boom-bust formula ... sometimes you win big with it, and sometimes you lose big with it. We are just seeing the ugly side of that formula this gen, that's all. 

It's like going to Vegas one night, making more money in a few hours than you would by working for a few weeks and saying "screw this, I'm just going to play in Vegas and make my living this way". Yeah it's great when it works, not so great when you lose though, because you don't have much to fall back on.