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deskpro2k3 said:
it can be real close. I remember Gamestop reported that over 2 million customers are still waiting to pre order ps4

 

Please stop saying this.  It's really misleading.  The Gamestop rep was misquoted or misinformed and there were never 2.3m pre-orders or even inquiries about pre-orders.  The number included every call they got about both consoles and their 'supplies'.  Whatever that means.  It was obviously an attempt to make GS look good and did the opposite imho.  That said the actual PS4 wait list at my EB was apparently 3X the size of X1's.  Sorry, but anecdotes are all we have at this point.   Here's the ArsTechnica version after corrections.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/gamestop-2-3-million-people-still-waiting-for-a-ps4/

 

OT:  I believe X1 will retake the lead briefly for a week or two.  Lose it as PS4 stock shortages are overcome but take it back later this gen and eventually pull away.  Total U.S. sales LT will be higher for both consoles than 7th gen with less of a gap.  There will never be a Kinectless SKU and M$ will not be dropping the price anytime soon.  They don't need to.  

Selling well and making money are not directly related to how much PS4 sells and if they really cared about VGC' sales numbers they would have spent some of the $70B plus they have in cash and short-term investments to discount and market the 360.  Instead they are focused on creating a seamless voice, data and entertainment network for phones, Windows based PCs, 'The One' and various smartglass devices and on short and long-term profit of course.  What they will do is push voice and gesture controls and improve and expand on the X1s capabilities with software updates, upgrades and innovations (I went there) to differentiate their product and justify the price.   Again, JMO.

Well I'd love to stay and chat but I'm off to the south seas to blow up some forts.  Later.