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Captain_Tom said:
mysteryman said:
Captain_Tom said:
FrancisNobleman said:
Captain_Tom said:

Well millions disagree with you.  The Last Of Us, Demon's Souls, Killzone, InFamous, Resistance, MAG, MGS4, LBP,  Heavy Rain, and Uncharted are games I could not imagine going through last gen not playing.  Guess what?  8 of those were 100% new IP's.  There isn't Uncharted Party 3 or Killzone racing.  Nintendo isn't unchallenged in the games department...


Guess what, apart of heavy rain and TLOU, I couldn't imagine myself playing those fucking generic and boring games you mentioned. It would give me aids. You like them ? Ok, cool story bro. 

Now the top 15 of most sold games of all time:

ALLLLL NINTENDO

Now the top 30:

All nintendo, minus 3 games from take two, 1 form microsoft and 1 by Sony and 1 by activision.

 

No one can match Nintendo son.



It's easy to have the highest selling games when there are so few.  Order of total software sold by Platform:

PS2

PS1

Wii

360

DS

PS3

 

Notice how even the juggernaught of the DS has had less software sold than the 360?   Also the 360 is close to overtaking the Wii, and the PS3 is on track to overtake both.  The PS3 just had too many exclusives release close to each other.  I didn't mind because I loved them all.  Oh and LOL at LBP and MAG being generic! I laughed pretty hard at that one...

 

So you like Nintendo.  Great!  But do you honestly think the Gamecube had better and fresher games than the N64, or the Wii the gamecube, etc...?


Bolded is one of the worst arguments I have ever read. It couldn't have to do with the quality of the games at all. Nope. The PS2 had a ton of games and two seperate GTA games managed to make it onto the top sellers list, how did that happen?

The PS3 released too many exclusives for them to sell greatly? So you're saying if TLOU, Demon's Souls and Killzone hadn't been released, the others would have skyrocketed up the all-time top-seller's list?

I don't know how you can say that the Wii didn't have a lot of fresh ideas for games, they were going crazy with motion controls, and hinged the success of the whole console on the premise. A few more games to add to the list:

N64:
Pokemon Snap

Gamecube:
Luigi's Mansion
Wind Waker
Metroid Prime
Super Mario Strikers
Donkey Konga
Battallion Wars
Eternal Dakness

Wii:
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
Red Steel
Super Paper Mario (3D shift mechanic)
Xenoblade Chronicles(?)
Zack and Wiki
Trauma Centre
Rhythm Heaven Fever

Wii U:
Nintendoland
Game+Wario
Wonderful 101
New Super Luigi U (focus on speedrunning mixes up the game)
Zombi U (great immersion with the gamepad)

There's planty of innovaative software on each system, and the Wii U is too early in it's life to judge yet, but as long as we get more asymmetric gameplay a la Nintendoland, it'll be fine.

The Wii did have fresh ideas for games.  Did you look at the list?  I put practically as many as the gamecube.  Yeah the Wiimote was very innovative.  I just said it again.  

 

As for the Wii U games you listed:  Here we go again listing rehashes and badly rated games as innovative.  Maybe they were to you, but they weren't innovative enough to everyone else.  To be on my list a game had to be 1) New or a complete evolution of a series, and 2) Highly praised.   I no doubt missed some games in every generation, but Zombie U is the farthest thing from that criteria I can think of.  A mediocre Zombie game is not new.

Hmmm:

NintendoLand - 77
Game + Wario - 61
Wonderful 101 - 78
New Super Luigi U - 77
ZombiU - 77

Except for Game+Wario, the games are all just shy of an 80, is that badly rated? I'm going to guess that you haven't played the first 2, to see the innovative uses of the gamepad. Wonderful 101 is a fresh IP. New Super Luigi U isn't 100% new, but it is a fresh way to play (speedrunning focused) and the first time Nintendo offered a full revamp of a Mario game as DLC. ZombiU is a true survival-horror, the game is highly polarising as most people (especially reviewers) expected a shoot-em-up, which is what we've come to expect of so-called survival-horror games like TLOU.

I love the bolded statement, try to shut down my argument as being anecdotal, but you can speak for everyone? Right.

Your crusade is pointless, if you don't want to like newer games, you're not going to.