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chriscox1121 said:

completely agree, but do think they will hold a reveal in any capacity until 16 or reveal something in 15?  Now, that I think about it, I might lean more towards a 16 reveal, but not completely sure.

E3 2016 at earliest would be my guess. 2014/2015 will likely focus a lot on games for both platforms with 2014 being heavy Wii U.

2016 would be the beginning of a ramp up for new hardware if its coming. Unless there is some market related push to do so sooner, like a new touch competitor or something.