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I think Wii U could do 60 million at best, but no less than 30 million. The thing is, I don't understand the reason Wii U isn''t selling. Free online, quality titles, actual innovation, backwards compatible, and nothing behind a paywall! Yes, there's not good third party support, but what happened to the +30 million people who bought MarioKart Wii, or +10 million people who bought SSBB/ SMG?
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Well saying you don't understand why the system isn't selling probably makes your estimates fairly off base.
The system is trending considerably below the GameCube right now which fizzled at around 22 million.
It NEEDS Mario + Mario Kart just to sell at GameCube levels I think. Right now it's way below -- case in point, October 2013 NPD for Wii U is 50k-60k (lets be nice and say it was on the highest end, so 59k). The GameCube sold 168k it's second October by comparision, that's more than double.
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Yes, but by that date, the Gamecube already had a Super Smash Bros (released at launch) and a 3D Mario (Mario Sunshine, July of 2002). So that comparisson is bullshit.
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Yet NSMB Wii outsold Melee + Sunshine by several times over. 2D Mario is a bigger franchise.
But yeah OK, lets keep pushing the "all it needs is EVEN MORE Mario", thing, lol. Don't get me wrong I think Mario 3D World will help (it can't make things worse), but I get the feeling its going to be a bit of a wake up call for some when it doesn't "save" the system.
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Thank god you said that. Now when the turn around happens it will be very pleasant to talk to you.
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When you say "turn around" what exactly do you mean? That it will start selling higher than the GameCube? When exactly? This month?
Keeping these things vague allows for the arbitrary and constant moving of goal posts that's already been happening all year.
3D World is a great game, but it's not like NSMBU was a dog turd either. It was a high quality game (probably the best 2D Mario since Super Mario World), so was Nintendo Land for that matter (far deeper and more polished than Wii Sports).
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This is what im saying:
Wii U: 7/7.5 million consoles sold by the end of the year. This starts with Mario
Wii U: Winner of the generation sales wise
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I think you're letting your personal fanboy-ism blind yourself with that second prediction there. Not in a million years is that happening. If Mario 3D World can boost Wii U sales to GameCube levels, that will be a minor miracle looking at their NPD sales for October.
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Just you wait.
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This just seems to be based on blind hope rather than anything tangiable.
Lets be optimistic and look at the Wii U's October NPD ... and say its 59k (the range was 50k to under 60k, so we'll give the Wii U the benefit of the doubt and give it the higher end 59k).
October was the first full month of the $50 price reduction, had the Zelda bundle, the release of Wind Waker HD, Sonic Lost World, Batman: Arkham Origins, Wii Party U, and Just Dance 2014 ... so it's not like it was an entirely barren month. I believe actually the NPD tracking period for October even covered the first couple of days of the NSMBU bundle too.
Now usually a platform increases in October to November NPD sales by a factor of 2x-4x. Lets be extra generous with the Wii U here and say that it gets an increase of 5x. Hell, lets go even higher and say 6x (virtually unheard of, but ok) ... that would be (59kx6) 354k sold for November.
This is still well below what the GameCube sold its second November (468k) and right around Dreamcast levels of sales.
Maybe they can pull off a miracle here, but the data I'm looking at just doesn't support it. To get to the sales you are talking about, they need Wii Fit U to turn back the clock and sell systems like its 2008 again, Mario alone doesn't get this job done.
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