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Max King of the Wild on 14 October 2013
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archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:
archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps1 outsold the SNES starting off. Ps2 outsold the Ps1 starting off. The Wii outsold the Ps2 starting off... but no one is going to outsell the ps3 (a second place console) starting off this next gen... Okay guys

You really should take a look at the link Zorg provided a few posts up.  According to that you're wrong about PS1 vs SNES (not until '97) and even PS2 vs PS1 (not until '02).  Of course the Wii beat everything right away; it was a phenomenon at a mass market price.  So it's clear that it's the rare exception that a new console can come along and trounce the competition in its first year.

Now, the PS4 might beat the PS3 in 2014 given all of the circumstances (as I said, we'll see), but WiiU in its first year losing in sales to the "8 year old" PS3 and 360 given their strong support/low prices in 2013 is not surprising, which was my entire point.



The SNES and Ps1 sold more than 9 million (a fifth of SNES and a tenth of Ps1 sales) in it's 6th and 5th year on the market? Please son... theres no way.

Ps2 sold 9.21mil units in the April '00 - March '01. And Ps1 sold 9.20mil units in FY '96 with being released in America 3 months. In 2000 Ps1 sold 9.31... OMG 9.31 > 9.21... Oh wait... Ps2 launched in US and Europe in Oct and Nov... so unless you think the Ps2 can sell damn near the same amount with having about 9months less time in the majority of the world WITHOUT selling more units... then yes, the Ps2 didnt sell more units the year it launched (LOLOLOLOLOL)

You sound quite defensive there...

Regarding your first paragraph, yes, it is possible.  The SNES had big games releasing in '94 (DKC, Super Metroid, Super Street Fighter 2) and '95 (DKC 2, Yoshi's Island).  As you can see from the chart, FY '93 and '94 were the biggest years for the SNES with over 11m each year.  So with price drops and even more games, 4.4m in FY '95 and 5.8m in '96 are certainly possible.

As for your second paragraph, I honestly can't remember what big games the PS1 had after MGS in '98 other than Final Fantasy 8 and 9, but what I do remember was that the PS1 was difficult to find in the St Louis area during the holiday of 2000 (whereas the N64 was everywhere), so it's not far fetched that the dirt cheap PS1 was, at the very least, not drastically outsold in FY '01 by the massively hyped PS2.  So my point still stands:  It's the exception, not the rule, that a brand new console can beat an established console at its cheapest price with an amassed library of games.

Now, the information on that chart could very well be inaccurate, but it's not a surprise that someone who thinks himself to be infallible would inherently dismiss anything that opposes his views - even in the face of logic.

5.8m is a far cry from 9.1m dont cha think? Ya know... the amount Sony Ps1 sold in '96... Ya know, the same time period the Wii U would be in right know... but hey... dont let that logic interfere with you