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Seece said:
Sales have been so low (across the board) for a while now that 80k is considered great.

That was considered awful for PS360 back in their first year ...

But unlike many here I don't even class it as a price drop, it was a sku shuffle, the baseline is the same just with added value, so I was expecting anything much. Zelda did a good job of selling some consoles, it doesn't tell us anything about what sales to expect though, they'll go up ... yes. It's the holidays.

Yeah, I pointed out in another thread that if Wii U sustains 80k (unlikely as it will probably drop next week) that's only about 6mil a year. That is in no where near great and would struggle hitting Gamecube numbers.