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S.T.A.G.E. said:
cmeese47 said:
Here is the issue right here plain as can be.

If you do not buy PS+ or Xbox Live what happens?

For a PlayStation owner they do not get exclusive discounts, long term game rentals, or 1 GB cloud memory for saves.

For a 360 owner they do not get accessed to the multi-player sections of their games, do not get access to Netflix, Hulu Plus, no cross game chat, no skype, etc.

PS+ is a wonderful service that adds value onto what is already provided for free on PSN. Live is a bull shit cash in that forces its consumers to pay for a service in order to access significant portions of games they already paid for.

Access to at least 66 games plus additional discounts, automatic updates and cloud storage or cross game chat and better match making.

I think it is pretty obvious PS+ offers a much better value than Live does.


QFT. People can like Xbox Live, but this is just the damn truth. The majority of the games made for the 360 were tailor made for online so to advocate not having Xbox Live while having an Xbox is pointless. Enjoy the third party single player but no one is stupid here.


no. it's not the truth, because they're different things.  they're values in different systems ( and I don't mean the consoles )
PSN is a better value than Live Gold, no argument here, but by the same turn, the dollar store's a better value than shopping at Target.
Microsoft doesn't have a competing service with PSN+
they just don't.
I pay for Gold to play online against other people (value and what I actually get for my money is a completely subjective thing, an opinion)
people pay for PSN+ to play a host of games that Sony chooses to put on there. See. Different.

... and seriously, in reality, if PSN and PSN+ is such a great value for the customer, why is Sony changing those services to more accurately reflect what Microsoft's been doing for years?

I've been on VgChartz for a long time and have had to endure countless posts from illogical PS fanboys about Sony's free online, all the while knowing that sooner or later Sony was going to start charging for it. they finally did... and I think it's awesome... only because the world loves a fool who doesn't know it. and so do I.