tired of the Live vs. PS+ debate!!

[Sevengen]

Nem said:

Sevengen said:

Nem said:

What you are saying OP, is not correct. Why? Because you are comparing the wrong things. 

On 360 and PS3, the service offered by Microsoft at a fee is offered for free by Sony with PSN (you can communicate with friends aswell. I use Skype on my Vita for it and its quite confortable and i believe theres a party app just for PSN on it wich i never bothered with cause we dont have mics on the PS3). 

So yeah... microsoft has nothing on that. 

The "rental" service as you put it, wich is PS+ doesnt have an equivalent on the microsoft side (even though they started doing it with really old titles aswell). The quality of the offered titles is clearly on a different level.

So in review: Theres an acess service wich is free on PSN and a fee on Xbox live and theres a rental component on PSN that is clearly superior (for a fee) to the rental component that microsoft attached to their acess fee.

Its beyond clear why the article says PSN+ service is clearly a better pack than the Xbox live gold service.

 

On X1 and PS4 they are essentially very similar services.

 

Also to make this completely obvious, by definition a competitor is a company that fights with yours for the same customers with the same type of products. The products are comparable and aimed at the same customer. The rental component is the clear connecting link right there, but the unspoken acess service is also a clear component you cant ignore. The acess component is an aspect of PSN+ just like the demos you get for free with silver are a component of Xbox live gold aswell. Actually lets just go ahead and say these are gaming services, because thats the purpose they both serve. They give you acess to multiplayer gaming experiences. On top of that, they offer the rental experiences and other goodies like demo's. You cant definine the services by the rental compenent alone but i am trying to make the connection clear to you.

To make it completely clear to you imagine 2 pizza delivery services. One delivers you a pizza for free and charges you for garlic bread if you want it, the other asks you to pay for both of them it if you want anything. Do you think these services arent competitors? Of course they are, they are still offering Pizza's and garlic bread to the same consumers.

yeah Nem, I'm aware that comparing the two is wrong. that's the point of the thread. Do you even take the time to read things through.

I'm afraid thats not what i said, it was quite the opposite. I said you are comparing the wrong things, not that comparing both services is wrong. They are both comparable services. I gave you a clear example why they are competitors and why you are just looking at components instead of the full service to say they arent comparable services.

Both are online network services that give acess to multiplayer gaming and digital goods. You cant say that the "renting" component is separate from it and call it a different service as its impossible to acess one without the other. The PS+ service does not exist independent from PSN. Its all part of the Playstation network service.

Let me give you another example. When you contract a service internet provider. They have different packs that offer you different options. Say a pack offers free internet acess but charges you for your phone. Another company offers a pack with internet+phone for a fee. They are both still competing for the same costumers with the same type of product. They are competitiors. They are comparable.

Good Lord...Nem... hang with me here a sec huh. Really try and hold on. I know it must seem like my logic is cruising around all light-speed and stuff, but you can do this. Alright. Here we go:
If someone is comparing the wrong things, then obviously... and I mean like way obviously, then comparing them is wrong. 
don't try to twist the semantics around just cause I called you out for not paying attention to what you read. 
I clearly state in the first post that comparing xbox live and PS+ is a mistake and that people should STOP doing it. Then you come blazing in, with the intellectual heat and intensity of an electric blanket and tell me I'm incorrect and comparing the wrong things. What??? Did I actually just read that??  Stop man, seriously. If you can't comprehend someone's point of view, then you have no business trying to argue with them.