Wii U hardware up 685% in UK!

[DerNebel]

happydolphin said:

DerNebel said:
Nice boost, won't do much overall though cause all those consoles were sold to Nintendo fans that would have bought the console sooner or later anyway.

I agree very much with Seece on this, Nintendo tried a gamble with the Wii U and lost it. Now they are left with an underpowered console and an controller that is seen as nothing as more than gimmick by most of the market. They tried to capture the Wii audience again and failed and no established Nintendo franchise will get that audience back now, because it was the Wiis concept that sold the games and not the other way around.

Nintendo fans need to ask themselves, who does the Wii U appeal to? The Core gamer that doesn't have a major interest in Nintendo software? No. The Dudebro COD and Madden/Fifa player? No. The Soccer moms? No. The only group of people that are interested in the Wii U are the Nintendo fans and it's relatively easy to guess how many of those are out there just look at the Gamecube. So if we assume that the Wii/DS/3DS have made a couple million more Nintendo fans, then I think it would be realistic to predict about about 30 mio Wii U at max.

You fail to explain what makes the U so different than the Wii at capturing the Wii audience. Is it just the controller? Cause we know that worked with the DS audience.

Again, this is just more 0 logic using numbers to justify a pre-conception (controller is not good for casual). Maybe Nintendo failed in its marketing of the U as appealing to the Wii audience, but from everything we see it looks like they're doing everything to reverse that: WW HD, Wii Fit, Wii Party, 3D World, MK8, etc. etc.

I don't know how that DS analogy helps you, cause while, yes of course the 3DS does better than at its release it's still nowhere near DS levels, also most of it's success has to be attributed to Japan where there is still a large dedicated handheld market and one would be very ignorant to say that the 3DS is not the best choice in that department. In the west the 3DS is only barely, if at all outselling the PS3 and Xbox 360 which are both 7-8 year old consoles. But all in all the 3DS never had the kinda problems the Wii U has.

And yes the majority of those problems boil down to the controller, since Nintendo wanted the Controller but also keep the price more or less affordable they made the console noticeably weaker than both the Sony and Microsoft competitor, which didn't garner them any points with the Core or Dudebro gamer, which they tried to appeal to as well, if we remember the E3 where they unveiled the console.

Now the Casuals why do you think they stuck to the Wii? Because it was hip because it was easy to understand and intuitive use for anyone and because the whole thing was new. Does any of that in your opinion apply to the Wii U? No, it cannot in any way be considered hip, cool or anything along those lines. The controller is a tablet with buttons, doesn't seem very intuitive to me. And also it's nothing new either not from the control standpoint and not from a games standpoint, just releasing the games that Nintendo has been releasing for upwards of 25 years now is not suddenly gonna make all the casuals that have already found a new toy come back to Nintendo.