As for both of you, neither one of you want to admit you're wrong about what Socialism is. I didn't say "Germany is Socialist." I VERY specifically said they were a Democratic Socialist state. They have Socialist attributes, and no that "Socialist" part does not mean "human rights." That makes absolutely no sense, and human rights does not have an objective definition. It's a problem and the U.N basically decides what "human rights" are.
DonFerrari and Crazed, you both don't know what Socialism is. You think it is purely just what Marx says you need to have before you can achieve Socialism or what Marx wants of a Socialist or Communist state (they are different, Marx believed Socialism would come first, then Communism would follow). You guys are saying that Socialism is about complete control over the people by the government, but I clearly showed you what it meant and you still disregard my clear answer. And the whole loaded words, Crazed... you obviously don't study these things like I do.
To say "confiscate" makes it sound like Socialism is about taking what's rightfully yours and gives it to others. That isn't what it is. But no matter what I say, you'll put it back to that anyway and say "it's the same thing anyway" with your pedantic B.S. All I know in the end is that I'm arguing with two people who refuse to admit recognize that Socialism is not evil.
