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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

That would probably sell better than the Wii U, but just about anything would probably sell better than the Wii U.

Truth is casual gamers were a tease ... they were the girl in the bar who flirts with you and dances with you but has zero intention of being your girlfriend. You just happened to be the guy that happened to catch her attention that week by saying something funny, next weekend she's off with someone else. Nintendo thought they had something there, but got ditched in favor of tablets/smartphones by that audience.

That's the problem with casuals. You have to constantly come up with something new, you can't just make Wii Sports 1/2/3 and Wii Fit 1/2/3 ... that audience wants the "thrill" of new novelties constantly.

A "better Wii" would just be yesterday's news, but at least it would probably be a fair bit cheaper than the current Wii U and probably have somewhat better sales.

The truth is that you are an idiot for thinking that way about the people who you lump into the category of casual gamers. If that audience moved away from Nintendo, then it's only because Nintendo stopped making games for them. 2009 was the last year with big releases, 2010 still saw moddest support, afterwards it was over.

The problem with your argument is that there is no proof for it whatsoever. If Nintendo made Wii Sports 3, Wii Fit 3 and other sequels, and then the audience didn't buy, then you would have a point. But as it is, all you have is bitterness and the desire for Nintendo to move back to the Nintendo 64 days which for some nonsensical reason you see as a successful era for Nintendo.

The truth is I don't need to call people names to make a point.

Casual gamers are interested in the new trends, Nintendo simply hasn't been able to provide them. Really after Wii Fit, they came up with what? Wii Music? Which was a dissapointment. They gave up on Wii Vitality because the sensor didn't work that great. Nintendo Land was their big hope with the Wii U but it hasn't been able to carry the platform the way Wii Sports did (that would be an understatement).

Brain Training on the 3DS is a flop. Nintendogs + cats did OK, but again didn't do anything for 3DS hardware sales and is a huge drop off from Nintendogs on the DS. These things have a 3-4 year window at most usually where they are hottest thing around and then that erodes (see also: Guitar Hero, which used to be the biggest third party IP).

The writing is on the wall ... casual gamers went elsewhere. If Wii Fit U is a huge success you can tell me I'm wrong, but I'm going to guess that you won't be uttering a peep about this conversation when the sales numbers come in.