The Batman relevance argument.

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BasilZero said:

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General consensus is that Batman can beat anyone given time.
No time, no plan, Batman can lose to just about everyone.

Batman is one of the few people who can defeat Superman as seen in Dark Knight Returns part 2. That doesn't mean he wins in a straight up fight or that Superman can't destroy him whenever he wants. Just proves Batman is capable of beating him.

Pretext is important in this situation

But wasnt Superman weakened cause of the bomb - Superman wasnt at full power/health when he fought Batman in that animated movie/comic.

Batman lucked out xD.

(Was a really good movie though).

The movie was based on the comic where the final fight was between Batman and Superman.  The comic had a sequel where Batman started off kicking Superman's ass (with a little help) before the story got under way.

 

There's been multiple times where Batman and Superman have faced off.  Sometimes Batman wins.  Sometimes, Superman wins.  Most of the time, Baman is just clever enough to stay alive while Superman comes to his senses or whatever.  Once, Superman beat Batman into a coma, though.  That's what caused Wonder Woman to kill Maxwell Lord (the guy controlling Superman).