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Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You can rationalize them tacking on the Kinect all you want, but Kinect will never matter in the grand scheme of things. Sony didnt bother forcing people to use the Move or PS Eye and this is why they will have an advantage. They are leaving it up to the consumers choice. If they support the Move and PS Eye people will buy the products. If they don't support it at least people have the pleasure of knowing they weren't forced to buy a useless product.

This seems like a contradiction...

"If they support the Move and PS Eye people will buy the products... If they don't support it at least people have the pleasure of knowing they weren't forced to buy a useless product."

If a device is bundled with every console, that encourages developers to support that device. Hence, Kinect 2 has more potential to get noteworthy software if its bundled with all consoles than if were optional.

Kinect 1 has had modest support and they've sold about 20 million units. Kinect 2 as a bundle will sell significantly more units and that will encourage stronger support.

Theres zero contradiction...

I know force bundling will lead to more games, but thats going to cause the Xbone library to get massive shovelware if devs are warming up to motion controls. With Microsofts marketing prowess this has a great chance of happening. Dragon Ball Kinect anyone?

The best Kinect has to offer is truly in dancing games without a motion periphral to help it break 3D and exist in the world without rails.

Of course Kinect had had modest support even though it  sold 20 million units. Want to know why?  Kinect 2 being force bundled will sell significantly more units, but its not telling of demand if its forced. They claim the Xbone cant work without it, so essentially its not really a peripheral, its an active part of the system.