| Yakuzaice said: I'm not sure why the price cut doesn't count. It kept sales above a baseline of 170k. When exactly will the Wii U even see a week at 170k, much less sustained sales? In the four weeks starting with the price cut the 3DS sold 12% more than the Wii U has in the past 6 months. Does it matter how long the drought period is when the Wii U sold less in the third week of January than the 3DS ever has? (it would be the second week of January if we discount the week right before the 3DS price drop). Even in December it was showing weakness. Also, weren't you just arguing that the 3DS drought period actually lasted until November? Now you're telling me the Wii U one is longer and worse. Another thing, why do N64 remakes count, but the Wii U releases don't? Prior to release people certainly had some expectations for NSMBU, ZombiU, Nintendo Land, Lego City, Monster Hunter, etc. Now the delays certainly didn't help things, but the Wii U fell to terrible numbers back when Rayman, Pikmin, Wii Fit, and Game & Wario were still launch window games. I meant Sony and Microsoft in the general console space. When the 360 has been leading the US for the last two and a half years straight, it puts the Wii U in a different situation than the 3DS. For that Nintendo needed to win over DS buyers. Now they either need to win over 360 buyers or somehow convince the casual Wii market to come back. Neither are very likely prospects. New buyers will likely go for the 360 as it is cheaper and has a broader library. Also arguably a better lineup this year. Current 360 owners seem much more likely to move to the Xbox One or stay with their 360s. As for the casual audience, the lineup this year isn't really geared towards them. Even for the games that are, do they justify the entry price for consumers? So that would leave them with the Nintendo base. That audience hasn't exactly proven itself to be a kingmaker. So if we go back to the 3DS, I think we can both agree the Wii U cannot come close the Japanese numbers. the 3DS did 17.3% more in 2011 than the best year for the Wii. To hammer it home, the Wii U would need to more than double (135% higher than Wii) the Wii numbers in the back half of 2007. Even with the Pikmin boost, the Wii was 5x higher in the same week in 2007. Europe has also historically been less receptive to traditional Nintendo franchises as well as being less receptive to the Wii U so far. So it is fair to say it won't perform like the 3DS there either. So if the Wii U doesn't perform like the 3DS in two regions where it saw 60% of its sales in 2011, I'm not sure if "I read that same crap you're saying two years ago, except it was about 3ds." holds as much weight. |
bolded 1: and wasn't it? 3ds took about a month or two to start doing bad numbers since their march release. wii u's drought goes from january to august and it is much more barren of games than the 3ds one.
bolded 2: those games hadn't released yet (many still hasn't) so this launch window crap you're saying doesn't matter.
bolded 3: the wii u performing worse or better than 3ds is not the point. that was a stupid statement to try distorting my ideas. my response was to counter the stupid statement that said "wich is the next game supposed to save wii u?" and I did read that kind of crap during the 3ds time. and that being said, wii u and 3ds situations are quite similar and wii u will probably have a 3ds style turn around.
