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curl-6 said:
Arius Dion said:

So while the 20 gamecube fans are orgasming over Pikmin 3 and WW HD, I see these games as big 'why's? WW was garbage, Pikmin..cricket...cricket. lol. They now want to fuse F-Zero with MK, 3D World is a kick in the mouth to 2D Mario fans (and 3D Mario fans as well I might add) DKC is the only game that seems to actually make sense. The Gamepad itself is a big turn off. 

While I don't agree about Pikmin 3 or MK8, I do agree with the overall sentiment that Nintendo seems to be repeating the mistakes of the Gamecube by making poor creative decisions with their franchises. 3D World looks like Sunshine all over again, and NSMBU wasn't what gamers wanted either; all we need now is a toon Zelda and the self-sabotage will be complete.

Nintendo need to get with the program and listen to what gamers who aren't already fans want from them. They need new consumers more than ever.

I understand. And to those who really enjoyed Pikmin, I'm glad they get their sequel (Why it took this long is beyond me) MK8 It looks great, but I'm left scratching my head why nitnendo feels they always need a catchy gimmick (antigravity) instead of just listening to the critiques and just make a better version. Many times, simplicity is better than bloat. 

The entire gaming industry is in need of new consumers. The problem is, none are attempting to court any. If you don't like FPS' or cinematic QTE's you are fresh out of luck. Nintendo has the ability to create new customers, but they choose not to do so. I think its because it takes actual hard work to do so. 

I like your wording of self sabotage, that may very well be the case. Gamecube really hurt many Nintendo franchises. What I'm realizing as I read through this thread is that many folks are either in their teens and early twenties. They grew up with GC, so they weren't old enough to see how Gamecube was mocked and considered a joke. The reason Twilight Princess' reveal was so emotional, is because of the damage WW caused. And now, we get another WW. Aonuma likes his chibi Link, I guess it reminds him of his college days of making dolls.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.