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Wright said:
Metrium said:

He is right, you can have new experience with old characters.

Can anyone seriously say that Paper Mario was'nt a completly new experience just because Mario was in it? Same with Mario Kart or the Mario and Luigi series.

Kirby Mass Attack was also a completly new experience from any other Kirby games before it.

Pokémon Snap was a pokémon game, but still a total new experience.

Metroid games were all 2d games, when they decided to make a FPS Metroid, they could have chosen to go with a new IP, instead they decided to keep Samus. Does'nt change the fact that Metroid Prime is a totaly different experience than previous Metroids.

Star Fox Adventure was supposed to be a new IP. At the end it became a Star Fox game unlike any others (for better or worst, better imo). Fox walking with a magical stick fighting dinosaurs and solving puzzles was'nt a different experience from previous Star Fox games that were all railed shooters in space only?

DK64 is also totaly different, it's one of my favorite game of all time, meanwhile I'm not a huge fans of the DKC series.


You can have new experiences with old characters, that's right. But that doesn't make it a new IP.

 

Every single game you've mentioned is part of an already established Intellectual Property. Pokemon Snap isn't a normal Pokemon Game, but it's part of the Pokemon universe. Star Fox Adventures is not the classic Star Fox, but it's part of the Star Fox universe (ergo, part of the Star Fox IP). DK64 is totally different, but it's part of of Donkey Kong universe.

To put it simply with another example: The newest DMC isn't a new IP, even though it drastically change almost everything. It is still a core DMC game. It has the name on it. It's part of the universe.

Ask yourself this: Would Paper Mario had been such as profitable and successfull if it was, for example, Paper Leblanc, and it was exactly the same game with the same gameplay, but instead the setting to be rich of Mario's universe folklore, some steampunk-fantasy setting? Would have it been? Perhaps not. But it would become a new IP. Something different. Now there would be Mario, Star Fox, Donkey Kong and Paper Leblanc, instead of the same sagas. That's what an IP is, and that's why Miyamoto is wrong on this one.


True, but Miyamoto never used the word ''IP'' in his statement. I've previously read the entire statement somewhere else and he uses words like ''new games'' and ''new experiences'', wich my point proved him right.



 

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