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MDMAlliance on 05 July 2013
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pezus said:
MDMAlliance said:

1. When I say "Nintendo," I mean games people usually associate with Nintendo that's obviously developed mostly by the same team every time.  2D Mario/3D Mario, Mario Kart.  Those games sell more than CoD. 

2. Also, the Wii U has a few exclusive 3rd party games, and will be getting more in the future (Bayonetta 2 is only one of those).  

Also, Gamecube still sold over 20m with what it had going for it.  The franchises have grown some since then, and the Wii U will at least have as much Nintendo games as the Gamecube did, plus the same or more 3rd parties.  Another thing you should realize is that Gamecube didn't do very well in Japan and Europe, but it did pretty well in Norht America.  

There are also a lot of factors here and you would have to be pretty full of yourself to think that you know exactly how these factors will play out in the future.  Pricing, design, games, the evolving market, parents, the overall economy... all of these influence sales and some will do much more than others.  

What I was trying to say in my intial post is that he's still assuming a small number of people will buy the Wii U because it supposedly "only has Nintendo games" and that Nintendo games alone isn't enough for anyone to buy the system.  Pretty much what his words are.  I am not arguing against the importance of 3rd parties, but Nintendo is not in "so much trouble" if they still don't have their support.  It would just be much better for Nintendo if they did.

edit: I should include that I mean those titles by themselves, not collectively.  Look at the sales and you'll see they are pretty much on top and also are the games that boost sales of the consoles themselves.

1. Check again. Only a few Nintendo games, and that on the highly successful DS and Wii, can beat a single CoD. And CoD releases once per year.

2. Bayonetta is hardly a 3rd party game now, since Nintendo are paying for it.

What Pachter means is that WiiU is a console purely for Nintendo fans. Wii was different because Wii Sports, Wii Fit and the like didn't appeal only to Nintendo fans even though they were Nintendo games.

 

1 Mario Kart Wii Wii 2008 Racing Nintendo 14.65 10.28 3.65 5.22 33.80
2 Mario Kart DS DS 2005 Racing Nintendo 9.37 6.51 4.12 2.54 22.55

This is a sign of the series growing.

5 Mario Kart 7 3DS 2011 Racing Nintendo 3.08 2.36 2.09 0.52 8.06

This game hasn't even finished selling yet and it's already 5th best selling Mario Kart.

3 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 10.91 7.67 6.49 4.14 29.21
4 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.49 5.04 4.67 3.77 26.97
11 Super Mario Galaxy Wii 2007 Platform Nintendo 5.76 2.98 1.20 0.91 10.84
17 Super Mario 3D Land 3DS 2011 Platform Nintendo 3.82 2.23 1.87 0.56 8.49

 

1 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 X360 2011 Shooter Activision 9.27 4.13 0.13 1.44 14.96
4 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Activision 5.49 4.75 0.48 2.04 12.76
21 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC 2011 Shooter Activision 0.37 0.94 0.00 0.26 1.57

Best selling CoD game.
Sure these games may release every year, but Mario Kart is definitely beating out CoD.  
Not only that, but the 2D Mario games are also outselling the CoD series.
Then you have the 3D Mario games that are growing in sales, look at Super Mario 3D Land.  It still ends up in the top 20's from time to time on weekly sales.