WiiU will sell better than Gamecube.

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zorg1000 said:

 

 gave u legit reasons why Wii U is currently selling less than GC last night and instead of coming up with any counter, u go and ask other the people the same thing? Do u have any reason to believe lifetime sales will be less than GC other than, because it currently is?"

Sorry I didn't see the above post. I thought it was only Zero that quoted me (as the thread got a load bigger so I didn't check the whole thing). And I didn't go around asking anything, I was only replying to people.

As for your points:

1) We don't know what impact the PS4 & XB1 will have, but it isn't unlikely that combined they will have a similar effect on Wii U sales. It could even be worse, given that PS360 sales are continuing and the Wii U is also positioned against them.

2) Could well help, can't really say. I'm not sure these differences are that big to people who aren't core Nintendo fans who get the console anyway. And hasn't the reaction to these games been "Why isn't it a Mario Universe?" and "Why isn't it a Metroid?". I personally thought a Galaxy successor would be what is most wanted and would sell the best.

3) True, but this crowd isn't likely to come back anyway so is a loss to both consoles.

 

Yes, the main reason why lifetime sales look to be lower than GC is that every month so far it has been. It is the only solid evidence we have, as the rest is speculation. Also there are big advantages that the Wii U had over GC (like NSMB and a year head start) that didn't help, so why are people so sure the others will? This means the assumption right now should be that it will sell less.

Sorry for the snarky remark, I thought u were simply ignoring my points

But do u really believe if Pikmin 3, W101, Rayman Legends, Wii Fit/Wii Party U were all out by now like originally planned, Wii U would still be tracking lower than GC?

And ur right NSMB and head start are advantages Wii U has but at the same time its also at a disadvantage because Wii U is currently the most expensive console on the market and NSMB is the only big game available. By this time next year Wii U will have the games I listed above, plus DKC, 3D World(both pretty much gauranteed to sell 5m+), Mario Kart 8, likely a price cut, be $100-200 cheaper than the comp and PS4/One could very well have a post launch slump as well do to PS360 having many of the same games.

Again like I said earlier, NSMB will not push a $350 console by itself. I feel the series has gotten a bit stale, the one on DS was the first 2D Mario in 15 years, Wii version the first console 2D Mario in ovwr 15 years and added co-op. 2 & U didnt add much and the serirs is no longer "New". I think 3D Land/World are a nice bridge between the New and Galaxy series and the masses will be more receptive to it vs NSMBU.

Also the people crying about Universe/Metroid are mostly hardcore gamers and those series dont sell as well as accesible Mario or DKC. I think both of those games will comr in 2015 buy right now it makes more sense to release games that are safe bets and likely sell better.

I think if every Wii U game had launched on time then they would be a lot better off. I think the switch to HD development means everything ended up being delayed around 3 - 6 months, but simply having these games but later doesn't fix the problem, as they have lost a lot of momentum and could be overlooked. A big slump in sales like this results in significantly reduced retail space, which again keeps down sales. And retailers aren't likely to be prioritising Wii Us over the holidays either, what with having to deal with 2 console launches. Wii U awareness could well be at an all time low, and all because of late games causing a big slump.

I personally think that the best shot they have is hoping for a PS4 & XB1 slump early next year like you said, and push a relaunch with Kart and Smash. Then again, I'm not sure how likely that slump is given the stronger third party support and apparently easier development for those consoles.