WiiU will sell better than Gamecube.

[Osc89]

zorg1000 said:

Osc89 said:

zorg1000 said:
But look at the number of high quality 1st/3rd party exclusives each console had at this point.

Wii U-NSMBU, Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

Gamecube-Luigi's Mansion, Wave Race, Smash Bros, Rogue Squadron, Super Monkey Ball, Resident Evil, Pikmin, Mario Sunshine(might be wrong on this one)

Also GC was $200 compared to XB/PS2 at $300, Wii U is $300-350 compared to PS360 at $200-300.

Once Wii U big exclusives come out and its no longer the most expensive, it will sell much better than it currently is.

But if these games didn't make the Gamecube a great seller why will they make the Wii U better than Gamecube? Obviously more games means it will sell better, but why assume it will sell better than Gamecube?

Also out of all the games they both had by this point, NSMBU is from the best selling series by far. The only thing bigger Nintendo has is Mario Kart, and Gamecube didn't get that for a while.

My last post wasnt disputing lifetime sales, I was talking about sales thru there first 8 months because u brought up Wii U currently selling worse than Gamecube.

But to answer ur question about why GC didnt sell well overall, ive got a few ideas why

1. PS2 was an unstoppable juggernaut. I dont see any console this gen being able to replicate that success.

2. Nintendo got funky with its established ip's. Mario went on vacation, Zelda was too cartoony, Fox left the cockpit, DK started playing the bongos and Kirby became a racer. Sunshine had a spin off vibe to it while 3D World Is an accessible, co-op traditional Mario that may seem like the true sequel to NSMB. Wind Waker has actually gotten more well recieved compared to when it originally launched. Donkey Kong on GC was all rythem/music based while Tropical Freeze is a traditional sequel. We dont know about Star Fox/Kriby yet but im positive they will be traditional sequels if they do release on Wii U.

3. Xbox stole the shooter crowd with Halo. Before that it was on N64 with GoldenEye/Perfect Dark/Turok.

Also ur right NSMB is bigger than any of the series i listed in the last post but its the only title on Wii U that could be considered a system seller but its not going to push massive amounts of consloes at $350 without other 1st party titles to support it. Every previos NSMB game released when the console was $200 or less and had an established library to support it.

Nintendo and its games are more popular now than 10 years ago thanks to Wii vastly expanding its audience. Overall I dont see Wii U matching Wii numbers by a long shot or even getting first this gen but it should comfortably sell better than GC.

"I gave u legit reasons why Wii U is currently selling less than GC last night and instead of coming up with any counter, u go and ask other the people the same thing? Do u have any reason to believe lifetime sales will be less than GC other than, because it currently is?"

Sorry I didn't see the above post. I thought it was only Zero that quoted me (as the thread got a load bigger so I didn't check the whole thing). And I didn't go around asking anything, I was only replying to people.

As for your points:

1) We don't know what impact the PS4 & XB1 will have, but it isn't unlikely that combined they will have a similar effect on Wii U sales. It could even be worse, given that PS360 sales are continuing and the Wii U is also positioned against them.

2) Could well help, can't really say. I'm not sure these differences are that big to people who aren't core Nintendo fans who get the console anyway. And hasn't the reaction to these games been "Why isn't it a Mario Universe?" and "Why isn't it a Metroid?". I personally thought a Galaxy successor would be what is most wanted and would sell the best.

3) True, but this crowd isn't likely to come back anyway so is a loss to both consoles.

 

Yes, the main reason why lifetime sales look to be lower than GC is that every month so far it has been. It is the only solid evidence we have, as the rest is speculation. Also there are big advantages that the Wii U had over GC (like NSMB and a year head start) that didn't help, so why are people so sure the others will? This means the assumption right now should be that it will sell less.