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g911turbo said:
danasider said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


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cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.



which part? the one about the X1 and the ps4 I didn't post about in this thread? or the part about me saying wii u is less powerful than current gen which I didn't, or on par which yet again I didn't. He pretty much post all possibilities what the hell were you expecting


Lol even though I get g911Turbo's post (swaying arguments making it pretty much a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario for Wii U), Cablebox is right too.  If just about every argument is listed, how is he not going to post an example g911Turbo used?

If one poster did all of the arguments g911Turbo said people are doing that would make a good point that that poster is just hating because they are inconsistent and finding any way, even contradicting ways, to discredit Wii U.  But if one person uses one example which is pretty valid even though it's only an opinion (the point that nothing looks better on Wii U than Halo 4 automatically suggests that the 3 games listed in OP can indeed by done on PS360) how is he doing exactly what g911Turbo said?  How else is the argument supposed to be argued for someone who thinks Wii U is underpowered and the games listed can be done on current gen systems?

Well, to be fair my post was aimed at certain individuals.  Also, it only brings up 2 points.  The false wall of comparison, and moving goal posts.

 

And ANY arguement is made better when you do it tactfully, instead of just spit "venom" so to speak (your post for example, does well by raising a point without being super abrasive, so well done)


Thanks, I try to be open minded to both sides of a debate.  And for this specific argument I believe both sides raise valid points.  I just think that a lot of people see things with a black and white mentality and won't acknowledge any opinion good or bad that contradicts their own.  And it seems that especially on the internet, debates are won by the harshest, most aggressive and extreme stances rather than a balanced perspective.  It's like in life, a lot of people will think that the loudest person won the fight despite the content of their claims.  Pretty amusing, really.