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Zero999 on 21 June 2013
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Michael-5 said:
HoloDust said:

1) Yeah, it seems MS can't make up their minds

2) LOL, well if you look at it that way, Wii sold most in 7th gen, so jump from 7th to 8th is completely insane ;)

4) I think the point of responses was more for you to realize how clock speed is completely irrelevant without knowing other parameters...if it makes any difference, I have no problem saying PS3 was pretty bad product, 360 was great (except for RRoD) and PS4 seems to be pretty good.

As for that original comparison, I'd say it's more or less accurate - PS4 is more than 1.15x XOne though, depending on how much those MOVE engines are making XOne's GPU to perform closer to full blown 7790 (which unfortunately it is not), I'd say it's between 1.4x-1.6x...though, PS4's GPU has some great enhancements, so it may be even more. Also, WiiU is still enigma (160 or 320 shaders), it can be lower than what you put, but also slightly higher.

1) Well Pemalite showed us it's about 10, and Microsoft have stated is't about 10x as well. Assuming PS4 is just as much more powerful over One as PS3 was to 360, then there is no reason to believe that PS4 will be any more then 10x as powerful as PS3.

I also still don't understand how the difference from XB1 to PS3 is only 10x, if you look at the RAW power the PS3 is closer to 14x the XB1's power. Still, PS2 was the primary system last gen, and it was half as powerful as the XB1. So effectively the jump from last gen to this was 20x (28x if I'm right about the gap between XB1 and PS3), there the jump this time is only 10x. Plus the last gen jump was over 4/5 years, where this gen is over 7/8, big difference, the jump this gen is not that much compared to before.

2) PS3 could outsell the Wii in the long run, and most game were made for the HD twins, not the Wii. I would argue that the PS360 was the standard this gen where PS2 was the standard last gen.

In all fairness we could average the power for the gen based off the number of consoles sold, but it wouldn't make a huge difference. The jump last gen was a lot bigger then the jump this gen.

4) I think it's more that people didn't read my comment, and went on a defensive immediatly. It's just the way a lot of people are on forums.

Anyway, PS3 was a bad console? How?

As for that original comparision, I've been told that I underballed the WiiU. Again, I can't used GFLOPs for a fair comparision, but WiiU has between 350-500GFLOPS, so it's anything from 2-3x as powerful as the PS3, but a 5th to a 3rd as weak as the PS4. WiiU is still closer to PS3/360 then PS4/One, but the gap between graphics is smaller then it was for Wii-PS360.

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Anyway, in the end WiiU, PS4, One all play games in 1080p, 60FPS, so we're finally entering the true HD era. I'm going to enjoy games on all fronts, and not argue pointless arguements with people who just don't matter.

No, wii u doesn't have between 350-500 GFLOPS. that number is purely speculative and based on almost nothing. and as you said, wii u is running games more graphically intensive than ps360 AND at 1080p 60 fps so it's hard to imagine it's gpu is only 350-500 GFLOPS. If i were to guess  I'd say the number of GFLOPS is between 600-750.