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aerisbueller said:

Selfish is what Sony is being. What if I want to play online a few times a year with my brother, who also doesn't play online much. What if when I want to play is particularly at times when I don't have a few bucks to play or he doesn't. I have to shell out $5 to do it? If they need money for Gaikai, then make Gaikai plus only. They already said the console isn't being sold at a huge loss. They already have an army of former xbox fans itching at the chance to pay for psplus. XBoxOne2, or whatever idiotic name they choose for it will probably charge for local multiplay as well, and the ps5 will follow suit. It's a ridiculous notion paying for online, and completely backward. Every Sony fan saying it's ok and not a big deal while it was a big deal on Xbox is intellectually dishonest, especially if the argument is "well this is not that evil because Netflix is still free", when they know damn well if Sony had said at e3 that the streaming services were also behind a paywall, they would still find a way to pretend it's different with Playstation for some reason, and if getting free games is what makes things ok, then by that logic, the new XBox Live is a better game, since they're giving away 2 games a month.  This is just a case of blind brand loyalty.

This a million times.
I'm probably the biggest Sony fan (as a whole) in here, most of my prefered products are that of sony's but this isn't the way to go, this isn't 1997, online can be maintained easily without spending too much money, keep Gaikai for PSPlus and the social features like streaming videos.

what should be free

-PSN Account

-Online Play

 

but with this you get limited by the following

 

-Limited to one or 3 PSN IDs

-Cloud saving limited to 2 GB (google does this)

-F2P games  get no extra benefits

-No discounts

-No subscription to stuff like Netflix

-Limit video capture to 5 minutes (for example)

-Limit social features like Streaming

-No cloud Streaming of full games unles bought seperatly or if you are PSPLus member (like Gaikai originally did )

-No monthly free games.

-No added "Personalized" options in profile, such as being a mod in your own video Stream

-No Betas and other community features such as PS Plus only member chat rooms and streams

 

there is a lot of ways to make people WANT to get a PS Plus, but removing online play is not one of them, Sony is being greedy and mandating this on people so that they would pay the Gaikai guys, if it wasn't for them things might have been different.