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sales2099 said:
BS. Rumors have allready been addressed and debunked.

- Kinect can be turned off in privacy settings

- No fee for used games,

- Can still trade in games normally

Its just the once per day internet check in (which will be addressed I assure you), and the DRM (lending games to a friend without signing in to your own profile), which Sony is rumored to do themselves.

3 cons down, 2 to go (1 if Sony adopts DRM too, thus cancelling it out).

- Kinect can be "turned off"... but what does this mean? The problem people have isn't so much whether it's permanently on, but whether it's forced to be on for certain functions. They aren't concerned with the idea that Kinect might be watching them masturbate, but that Kinect is going to be used to control the number of people you can have watching a movie, or to force people to watch ads, etc.

- No "fee" for used games - what that means is "if you buy a game from a recognised used game retailer (meaning: ones that have signed a deal with MS), there will be no additional fee - it's built into the price you paid to the retailer". That's why the VP spoke of the fee for installing the game on another system, and then the support team said no fee for "used games" - they were referring to "official" used games.

- You can trade in games, but only to recognised used game retailers (no option to sell on private market), and practically guaranteed to be peanuts in terms of offered price.

You seem to have bought MS's PR spin. In each of these cases, MS have said one thing, and then changed what they said a short time later. And in each case, it was designed to sound like MS never really meant what it said, when in reality they aren't addressing the actual concerns. Like a politician going "We need to end the war", when their intent to do so is to go all-out offensive to beat the enemy into submission.