US deficit shrinking at fastest rate since World War II

[KungKras]

Kasz216 said:

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Mr Puggsly said:

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KungKras said:
Just get rid of some of that bloated education spending. Seriously, why is so much needed?

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Yes! Because fuck the future generations! Who needs education anyway!

Srsly, wtf? I've seen documentaries about american public schools, and they are already a disaster, do you want to make that worse?

There are better ways to educate children than public school that are less expensive and get better results.

Did those documentaries mention that?

What? Homeschooling?

Sure, that's an option. Charter schools get great results in spite of getting less money. Education through computers is not living up to its potential probably due to unions slowing progress.

Pouring more money into education doesn't seem to get better results.

That graph is from John Stossel.

Is the graph adjusted for inflation?

Also, private schools tend to inflate grades, because they make money that way, if charter schools = private schools.

If public education is getting that much money in the US, then why are so many schools starved of resources? Do you still cut funding for schools that perform badly? Because that's one of the worst policies ever made.

You simply need to standardize and optimize the system, so that no matter where you go to school, you get the same education.

A) Do you have a source on that?  The only cases of grade inflating I know of is in Public schools.

We have education testing here, so grade inflation gets caught.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/justice/georgia-cheating-scandal

 

B) No Charter Schools are public schools.  They are just public schools that are allowed to act independantly of the public school bureaucracy in exchange of receiving less money per school.

This allows them to try new teaching methods/cirriculum and adapt on the fly.  They still take all the same milestone tests.  (As do private schools.  Though they can opt out of some of the testing with their own tests.)

C) 80 to 85% of all money spent goes to personel.

http://www.aasa.org/uploadedfiles/policy_and_advocacy/files/schoolbudgetbrieffinal.pdf

Legislators negotiate with the people for the budget.

Then the unions negotiate with the legislators for their salary.  

Nobody really negotiates for supplies... and since parents don't really have many if any alternatives, they don't need to.

 

In areas with bad students... you need to pay educators more, just to put up with it.  So even when those schools get more money... it's mostly just going to teachers being willing to walk through the doors compaired to better public schools or private schools.

Private schools actually tend to pay worse, but get the best teachers because there teachers feel confident they can teach and people want to learn, while they can avoid a lot of the issues of the public administration.

http://712educators.about.com/od/jobopenings/a/private-public.htm

Yes, there has been news about that kind of stuff in Sweden from time to time, but unfortunately all my sources are in Swedish. However, it struck me that perhaps it's not very logical of me to assume that just because private schools work a certain way over here, they work the same everywhere. So I'll concede that I don't know enought about how that works in the US.

The whole charter school thing does sound interesting. I've never heard of something like that before. It does reinforce what people have been saying about the american school administration and byreaucracy being crippling and inefficient. Is it true that schools with lousy grades get their funding cut? Perhaps the answer is to optimize the public schools and make them more like the charter schools, instead of just purely cutting funding? I mean, teachers seems to have lousy wages as it is, and if supplies is that small a piece of the budget, what more is there to cut?