Goatseye said:
Munkeh111 said:
Goatseye said:
AVB's Porto was a wonder to see. Hulk, Falcao, Varela. If you think teams playing nice doesn't reflect the managerial qualities you should check your knowledge on soccer.
Barcelona team lacks a robust defensive line that in the firs 3 seasons help them dominate every team they played in Europe. If all you see in Barcelona game is just boring passes until Messi shows up you're one of the folks that rather watch highlights of a game than the whole thing.
Arsenal always had that English back end, phisically though but the qualities didn't match the front end. Tottenham has a horrible defense my god they can't hold an advantage for the sake of their lives.
Playing beautiful is a Philosophy and an ideal. Mourinho's ideal is to win. Everybody wants to win, but I will never pay a ticket to watch Mourinho's team score a goal and park the bus in front of the goal for the remainder of the match. On the other hand AVB's team resemble Mourinho's style but he couples them with some flair, which Mourinho doesn't like.
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Some managers make attractive teams, doesn't make them a good manager. A good manager wins trophies and gets the best out of his players, Jose suceeds on both fronts, AvB not so much.
I have watched Barcelona plenty of times and have rarely been entertained. Having said that, I can't watch any games with Spanish teams as half the players seem to be on the floor at any given time.
Sorry what are you saying about Arsenal? The problem with watching them has nothing to do with their defence, it has everything to do with a lack of killer instinct. Their play in the final third is normally too slow allowing the opposition to get back and get organised. That is why they are frustrating to watch, nothing happens, it just goes from side to side.
Mourinho has no problem with flair, his Real side has had plenty of that, but he is always sure to unlerline it with steel. AvB does not seem to grasp this concept and is too keen to play "Barcelona style" football without the players to suit the system
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That's where I see you don't know AVB that well. Look up FC Porto 2010 and see highlights of the plays and how the team behaved according to his style of play. AVB is adored in Porto because his style of play is about high defense line, a high rotation midfielder where all three players (4-3-3) can operate in any part of the field with the same efficiency and the forwards are the first defenders. A very cohesive team, that pressures opponent when they play out of defense and very lethal with well measured passes without giving the opponents chance to counter.
It's a marvel to see my team playing today, we kept his philosophy. He wants to get Joao Moutinho for Tottenham to put order in that junk.
And about Arsenal, they don't know to defend bro. I saw their game against Braga 2 years ago and they were disastrous as always in Europe.
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He had a system that worked well in Porto with those players and it worked well against who precisely?
He tried to put that system in place at Chelsea and Tottenham where the players did not fit the system.
I never said anything about Arsenal's defending, it is fine since they have got Mertersacker playing properly. My complaint was about their lack of final product on the pitch, not just their inability to win trophies
