Has Nintendo Lost Touch With North America?

[Michael-5]

Yakuzaice said:

Michael-5 said:

In the US, 3DS averaged 43-56k weekly for April in 2013. In 2012 3DS averaged 21-29k weekly in April. 3DS is literally selling double what it did in 2012 for April.

In the US, 3DS averaged 32-45k weekly for February 2013. In 2012 3DS averaged 55-64k weekly in February. Like I said 3DS had a great start in 2012 because of the price cut and 2 big games, but weekly sales for 3DS are now up consistantly YoY, and will continue to be so for the rest of the year. I expect after Pokemon and Animal Crossing 3DS sales should be significantly stronger in 2013 then in 2012. 3DS is growing in annual sales, this can't be argued.

Why are April Numbers overtracked for 3DS? Just because it's doing well, doesn't mean anything.

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Wii selling tons and tons was also unexpected by most. I see no logical reason to assume Wii U won't follow in Wii's footsteps. Yes Wii U's first 6 months are weaker then Gamecubes, but this is also the first time Nintendo has released a new generation console, so technically it's just 4 million ahead of everything prior LOL, no, but seriously Nintendo has always launched a console with at least 1 killer app. Wii U launched with nothing, what do you expect, but poor initial sales? Wait for Mario Kart 8.

I think Wii U can get 35-45 million in the US. Wii got about 40 million, but the market is growing, so even if Wii U has a smaller market share, it should still do better then 35 million at worst case IMO.

I just have faith that Wii U sales will turn around with more software. Like you said PS3 did it, and I think Wii U can do it too.

To cut to the quick, you are using VGC numbers which are wrong.  I am using NPD numbers.  The 3DS is not growing in the US for 2013 so far.  This can't be argued.

What evidence do you have that the market is growing?  Certainly not Wii U sales.  There is just no rationale for saying that the Wii U will be one of if not the best selling Nintendo console in NA when it is trailing their worst selling console after half a year.  Also the Wii U won't hit 4 million for a rather long time.

NSMBU is nothing?  It was one of the best selling games on the Wii.  Were you saying that before launch?  Did you actually read what I said about the PS3?  Its worst month was more than double the Wii U's and it won't come close to your prediction for Wii U lifetime sales.

What did NDP say for April? May numbers aren't up.

Maybe I am wrong, I am using VGC numbers and I give VGC too much credit.

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Wii U's market will grow. There was a small flare with Lego City and Monster Hunter, I think Pikmin 3 and the mega hitters like Mario Kart 8 will stabilize Wii U at a higher point.

I agree though, there is no "evidence" that the Wii U will be hyper successful. It's just too early to call, I mean 360 did a lot better then most people predicted because of Kinect.

NSMB for Wii was heavily bundled with the Red Wii. I bought a Red Wii, and I sold NSMB just so I can have a Red Wii. It's not a system pusher, especially when the level designs look so damn similar between NSMB Wii and NSMB U.

Also yes, I read what you said about PS3, but Nintendo isn't Sony, and it's too early to judge Wii U a failure. Like I said above 360 recovered and managed to hold 2nd for almost the whole gen. I'm expecting the Wii U to rebound like the 360, but more extreme, where you're expecting the Wii U to plummet, like the.... actually I can't think of a single console to open up to millions of sales in months, and not do very well.

Wii U already is setting it's own trend. If it fails, it will be the only console to sell 2.5 million units almost instantly, and then crash. I recall consoles like the Dreamcast and Saturn never exploded at launch like Wii U did, but sold consistantly sub-par. If it succeeds, it will have the worst start for a popular console, by far.

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Let's just agree it's far, far too early to judge Wii U. 3DS is fully debatable though.