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Zero999 on 11 May 2013
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kupomogli said:
Zero999 said:
kupomogli said:
Otakumegane said:
PS4 will be 449-499.

Don't know what it is with people saying 399 when that's obviously a big loss and they are looking at a flat operating net income. Not gonna take huge losses with this thing.

The parts for the PS4 cost $450 or atleast similar parts cost about the same.  Sony also made the comment that sounded like they're going to take a small loss, so the system may very well cost $399.

retailers need to profit. for the price to be 399 they would have to buy it for much less.

Retailers do profit.  For a $60 release, a first party publisher probably makes around $30 for each copy sold.  You wouldn't count first party titles as making a profit for the system though until they reach the amount of sales that make the game itself profitable., but two first party titles at $60 would turn a profit for the PS4 if the estimated $450 to build a PS4 is correct and $399 is the starting cost. 

Even if they don't make the money back right then, how long is the PS4 going to be out.  These people will atleast purchase five or more games, third or first party, so in the end the system is going to profit regardless of them taking a $50 loss.  I'm sure there will be five Call of Duty titles, and those people will probably get other FPS' too.  This isn't going to be like the PS3 where Sony was taking a $300-400 loss on each system.

let me explain again, if the console costs 450 and retails for 399, that is NOT A $60 LOSS FOR SONY, IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT. if it's retailing for 399, that means sony is selling for a sub 340 value. I don't think any retail would buy a system for 399 and sell for the same price, that's the point.