| Shinobi-san said: How do you know its more capable than the current gen CPU's? But then again i was the one to say its weak but i cant prove it... I'm just going by the rumours, developers interviews and the games that has released so far. We dont even know how much better the GPU is...but just like the CPU all evidence says its stronger than what current gen has to offer. And yes, you managed to list all the components of the gamepad but that doesnt mean its cheap? Even with your own calculations $40 more than what current controllers cost would still make the gamepad the single most expensive part in the WiiU would it not? Take out that extra $40 and the wiiU could cost ~$250 (sold at a loss or profit is up for debate, because we both dont know)? And i think your cost estimate of the gamepad is lowballing it. Its not like they just stuck a shitty screen on a shitty controller. The thing actually has some heft to it and a very good feel in the hand. That doesnt come cheap. The screen is also quite decent. And it must be this way, because this is what Nintendo's main attraction for the console was. The reason why i said the WiiU is a bad example is because of the gamepad cost. Sony doesnt have an equivalent. It doesnt need more explanation than that. Its just that we disagree on the cost of the gamepad. Where i do agree with you is that the PS4 will cost more than the WiiU. But i dont think a 450 - 499 pricepoint automatically means a loss for sony. Which is what i had a problem with in my initial post. |
bolded: maybe but when you said it's a "major" part of the cost it sounded like wii u would be a lot cheaper if it wasn't the case, and a $50 difference in exchange for a selling point seens a better trade off.
the price of the controller doesn't make wii u a bad comparison, just disconsider the ps4 hard drive (it will probably have one) and the difference should dissapear. then we can check the price differences of the other parts and the result is the same.
bolded 2: no arguing with that,i think sony could break even at 450 or have a small loss, 499 would have some profit and 399 would already be a big loss.
p.s: almost forgot, it's just common sense the cpu is better than last gen consoles. you can say it's based on the wii cpu but by that same logic we can also say pentium 4 is based on pentium 1/2/3 and that doesn't make it less superior right?
