Is sony going to learn their lesson with the PS4 and not over price it?

[Zero999]

Shinobi-san said:

Zero999 said:

Shinobi-san said:
Everyone is pulling out numbers from their ass in this thread.

Who says selling the PS4 at 399 will cause a loss??? Jeepers.

The tech inside PS4 is powerfull but really cheap. Since theres nothing coming in addition to the unit itself that we know of (apart from camera and control) i dont see a major cost issue at all.

i used the wii u example. 299 at a loss would mean about 250 cost sold at 230 to retailers, who in turn retail for 299. ps4 seens considerably more expensive than wii u in many parts so i expect a number close to 400 in cost. even if they sold it to retailers for 300-320 (about 80-100 loss) the system would still retail for about 400. and considering sony can't/won't take that big of a loss, $450+ is more plausible.

Firstly we dont know the exact break down on the Wii U. So those numbers are total guesses.

And secondly the WiiU is a bad example as most of its cost is in the gamepad. WiiU - Gamepad = signigicantly reduced price.

And i'm not saying the numbers are not plausable, they are. But most people are saying 450 - 499 at a loss? I don't see that happening given what we know about the PS4 components.

But then again my knowledge on retail costs are very limited so maybe everyone else is right

dude, don't make me laugh. the wii u gamepad is more expensive than your regular dualshock but the difference should be 30-35 dollars tops(to fabricate, not retail separetely). i took into consideration that retailers profit about 30% in their sales, wich means they buy wii u for 230. if selling it for 230 means a small loss for nintendo, it should cost them 240-250 to produce. it's not complicated.

also, 499 wouldn't be at a loss, 450 would be some loss and 399 a big loss.