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snowdog said:
Lawlight said:
snowdog said:
The PS4 might outsell the 720 if the always online and no used games rumours end up being true but it won't outsell the Wii U.

I'm expecting the PS4 and 720 to retail for $500 and the Wii U to have a $50 price cut in November, which would leave the Wii U Basic SKU being half the price.

You've also got to remember we're in the middle of the worst worldwide recession we've seen in donkeys years and that Nintendo have the strongestpstable of system selling IPs in the business.

1st Wii U
2nd PS4
3rd 720

That year's head start is going to make all the difference. If the Wii hadn't been a ridiculous sales phenomenon the 360 would have won last gen due to its head start.


Nintendo IPs aren't what they used to be. Nintendogs? NSMB? Brain Age? Sales are not what they used to be when the casuals were on board.

The sales of Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 for the 3DS says different. I'm expecting Wind Waker HD, 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 to be released for the Wii U before the end of the year, we've also got Wii Fit U, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101 and Game & Wario being released during these next few months.

NSMB U sales have been held back because (imo) it's too similar to the previous versions and released too close to the other versions.

We've also got the possibility of Wii Sports U being released, probably with online play.

Then you've got to take into account that the PS4 and 720, due to being made on a 28nm process, are going to be supply constrained for a while so even if customers are happy with forking out the cash for a more expensive console they might not be able to pick one up for a while...and if that wasn't enough you've also got to take into account that customers buying a 720 will also have the added expense of paying for Live Gold subscriptions on top of the price of the console.

I really don't understand how people are still arguing the specs here lol. Epic said the Unreal 4 engine won't work on the Wii-u because they are aiming at next gen tech, not the ps3, 360 and Wii-U. He literally had to laugh when he was asked if the engine was coming to the Wii-U.

The exact specs might be a mystery but that is only because Nintendo doesn't want people to know. However, if they are on par with the next gen consoles then why aren't we seeing any 1080p games on it? Also you can be sure a key engine developer like Epic knows the specs like the inside of their pocket. If they say Nintendo has to make do with the Unreal3 engine then that's the truth. Business wise it might actually hurt them, but they just can't make it work. Nintendo gambled on a expensive tablet controller instead of next gen specs and we have to wait and see how that will work out for them.