tontus said:
1. God of War: Ascension is better than every game you listed other than Tomb Raider and browsing around the internet you'll see it is probably the most liked game out of your list (except Tomb Raider). Halo: Reach gets a lot of hate and is the most hated game outside of Halo: ODST in the series, AC: Revelations is probably the most disliked game in the series outside of the first game and AC: Brotherood is mostly considered weak too. Gears of War: Judgment is mostly hated too so I'll let you have that one. 2. Halo: Reach's marketing budget was even bigger than Halo 3, the budget for the game was probably 3 - 4 times larger than GoW:A/GeoW:J which not only ensures that the team had the resources and time to make it as 'good' as possible but that the marketing would also ensure it would sell just as well as a mainline Halo game would. 3. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue isn't a prequel, what's your point? It was a very cheap taster of the full game, too extensive to just be called a demo. 4. Both those Assassin's Creed games are well known to have had an army of developers working on them and huge marketing budgets, hardly fair to compare one of the biggest (the biggest?) new IPs this generation to 2 poorly marketed exclusive games with a March release at the end of the generation and one of them is in a very unpopular genre. 5. Tomb Raider isn't really doing that well considering it's obviously had a much larger budget than GoW:A/GeoW:J explaining why even at 2 million sales isn't satisfactory enough for Square Enix whereas Sony/M$ have probably already made back some profit on both GoW:A & GeoW:J. And how do you decide what is a success and what isn't? God of War: Ascension is a hack 'n slash game that sold 1m+ in 3 weeks on one console that launched at a terrible time (end of gen) with terrible marketing worldwide. Nothing else on a single platform has achieved sales anywhere near that in the genre, only MGR:R & DMC4 compare if you combine their sales on both platforms. It'll probably sell at the very least 3m lifetime and has a high chance at passing 4m+ (easily so if mass bundled for black Friday/holidays) in it's lifetime which would make it just as successful as everything in your list except Halo 4. Even though Gears of War: Judgment is a massive flop, especially since it's in a very popular genre, it'll still sell at least 2.5m lifetime with a high chance at passing 3m. More than most exclusives this generation, so is it still a failure? Probably not, just a massive decline from it's predecessors and has ruined the franchises reputation massively. And speak for youself, just because GoW:A isn't as beloved as it's predecessor which is the most beloved, bestselling and most acclaimed game in its genre ever doesn't mean a lot of people don't like God of War: Ascension because the vast majority do infact like/really like the game. Just look at the average review scores from the public on GameStop 8.5/10, Amazon 8.4/10. It's Gears of War: Judgment alone that the vast majority of people hate with the average score at Amazon 5.6/10 & GameStop 5.9/10. And by the way, Halo 4 had its first big price cut to $40 on December 10th 2012, it then went back up to about an average of $45 from mid-March to early April where it went back down to $40 on the 8th April 2013. Since then it has been $35 all month until last week where it dipped to $28, a.k.a. explaining why the game can still average the 40K a week you're getting excited about. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Halo-4-Xbox-360/product/B0050SYX8W |
You shouldn't be talking about bias. Halo: Reach, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, and Tomb Raider all have higher metacritic scores than God of War Ascention. They also all have better user metacritic scores. They also all have better gamestop user reviews. They also all have either equal or better amazon reviews. Now tell me again why, objectively speaking, GOWA is the better game? It is about equal to revelations. Revelations has an equal metascore, worse user metascore, and better amazon/gamestop user reviews. So yes Ascention is clearly a poorly made prequel in the eyes of most people. As for Gears of War Judgement. That game has been panned by nearly everyone. I'm not so sure being better than Judgement is a big accomplishment.
IDK why JayWood was using GT5Prologue as an example. One is a prequel, the other is sony taking advantage of fans by making them pay $60 for an unfinished game and then forcing them to pay again once the product was finally finished
Halo 4 selling well because of pricecuts is a really weak arguement. Every single none nintendo/Call of Duty game gets deep pricecuts within 30 days nowadays. Halo 4 has held its value better than almost every hd game to come out this holiday season and even the recent ones. Its retail price currently in the United States is $40. Amazon prices, especially by third party vendors are not what most copies of the game is selling for. No major retailer except amazon has been selling Halo 4 for under $40.
